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Was ATC overstepping its boundaries when advising a pilot to ignore a cell warning?

The controller didn't overstep his boundaries, and he didn't tell the pilot to ignore a weather warning. Shamrock demanded something that's extreme for the NYC airspace: runway heading for 15 miles. ...
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How many holds to be IR current?

According to this AOPA article, quoting the FAA person who actually wrote 61.57, it’s one hold: When paragraph 61.57(c)(1)(ii) [i.e., "Holding procedures"] was written it was not intended ...
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During the holding procedure is it required that the pax must have the seat belt on?

There are no regulations which require passengers to be seated when the plane is flying a holding pattern, but there are a few practical advantages to keep the seat belt sign on during this phase: ...
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How frequent are unpublished holding patterns outside general aviation?

Not very frequent at all. The need to delay traffic toward an airport is quite common. Usually, it is simply a question of fitting someone in a sequence of arriving aircraft, but there can be more ...
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Is this a very sloppy holding pattern or something else?

It does indeed look like they are not correcting for wind. The current wind over Belarus at 10km altitude looks like this: (screenshot from windy.com) That is consistent with the direction in which ...
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How do I fly a direct entry holding pattern when approaching from an awkward angle?

To add to Michael Hall's answer, the direct entry is the one where you get straight on to the "racetrack" with minimum maneuvering and that is possible from anywhere within the direct entry sector. ...
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What is meant by "Outbound leg timing begins over/abeam the fix, whichever occurs later" in FAR/AIM 5-3-8?

The text is written that way to take into account the various type of holding entries. In case of a parallel or teardrop entry, the outbound leg starts after passing over the fix. In all other cases ...
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Why can US deny airspace to commercial flights?

Every country regulates its airspace. You will find the ones for the US airspace on the FAA website. https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/us_restrictions/airspace/ What went wrong is ...
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What should you do when the pattern is crowded?

As PIC if you don't feel comfortable entering congested airspace at a beehive airport, dont enter it. It's that simple. Divert to another airfield and attempt to return to the original airfield when ...
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How to correct for crosswind in VOR holding pattern without wind information?

One you are established inbound on the VOR radial note the heading you are flying to maintain that course. The difference between that and the radial is your wind correction angle. Multiply it by 3 ...
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Do helicopters fly holding patterns under IFR?

In short, yes, helicopters fly procedure turns, hold, etc. just like airplanes. Hovering at a fix is not practical, as they do not really have the nav capability to perform that, and it is contrary ...
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Holding entry is counted as a one turn holding?

Personally I have no expectations whatsoever. Sometimes the student (or instructor) requests multiple holds and they end up only doing one, and sometimes it's the opposite. My general technique is to ...
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Do helicopters fly holding patterns under IFR?

Indeed helicopters can be put on holding during IFR. ICAO DOC 8168 VOL II (PANS-OPS) has helicopter specifics in ...
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How to correct for crosswind in VOR holding pattern without wind information?

When holding, it is true that you should take then inbound wind correction and multiply it by three and use that for the outbound correction. Your question centers on what happens if you don't know ...
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What do these clearances by Heathrow Director mean?

Those are both very common clearances given to aircraft that are already in the hold near Heathrow. The controller is just giving instructions on how they want the aircraft to leave the hold. It means ...
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Do helicopters fly holding patterns under IFR?

A. A helicopter uses a LOT more fuel hovering than it does in forward flight. B. ATC are used to seeing their radar blips moving, so having the helicopter keep on moving complies with radar's ...
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Am I required to report entering the hold in lieu, persuant to the IFR mandatory reporting points?

If you're in radar contact with ATC, the answer is no, you will not need to report it unless requested to. If you are not in radar contact (which would be unusual as that is in Class E airspace) you ...
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Are we expected to fly distanced leg (instead of timed leg) in holding pattern in GPS approaches?

Short Answer: Yes, the pilot is expected to fly the hold as depicted, with an outbound leg based on distance (see AIM 5-3-7, paragraph b). Most holds depicted on GPS instrument approaches in the US ...
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What are Altitude, Attitude and Heading Hold?

These are generally 3 different auto pilot modes. The first two are related to pitch and the third to heading/roll a nice overview can be found here Altitude Hold: Generally speaking setting an ...
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What is an autopilot washout filter?

A washout filter is used in a yaw damper autopilot to remove the steady state component from the yaw rate sensor. Feedback from the rate sensor is used to damp dutch roll mode, but during turns ...
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Was ATC overstepping its boundaries when advising a pilot to ignore a cell warning?

The controller didn't overstep their boundary but used poor judgment in using "another aircraft just did it..." as justification. That is almost always the last words of a crash as unforeseen weather ...
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What vertical separation is required in a holding stack to avoid wake turbulence?

The minimum vertical separation in a holding stack is no different from the minimal vertical separation used elsewhere. This is almost universally 1000 feet. In countries where Reduced Vertical ...
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When can I proceed inbound in a hold in lieu of a procedure turn when cleared for the approach?

You don't need to do a full turn around the holding pattern, you can just cross the IAF and proceed inbound. This is from the AIM 5-4-9(a)(5): The holding pattern maneuver is completed when the ...
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Holding entry is counted as a one turn holding?

The first time you pass over the holding fix is the entry. Each additional time you pass over the holding fix completes one turn. The first turn is often not a complete racetrack, e.g. a teardrop or ...
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Holding ***and*** the Procedure turn

If you find yourself in that hold, you're calling ATC for your next steps. The holding pattern depicted on this chart is not for aircraft on the approach. Once you've completed the PT, or one of the ...
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Does an amended shortcut clearance change the clearance limit?

I assume that this question is about the US, based on your examples. No, it doesn't change the clearance limit. For some reason I could only find the documentation in the ATC orders, not the AIM. ...
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Are we expected to fly distanced leg (instead of timed leg) in holding pattern in GPS approaches?

Yes. The number denotes the distance of the holding pattern. From FAA Instrument Flying Handbook: DME and IFR-certified GPS equipment offer some additional options for holding. Rather than being ...
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Why can US deny airspace to commercial flights?

Overflight privileges are part of what is known as freedoms of the air. In this case it would be the 1st freedom of the air, which is overflight without landing. These freedoms are negotiated between ...
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How do I fly a direct entry holding pattern when approaching from an awkward angle?

The answer is yes, you would enter holding just as you depicted.
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