I just saw a comparison between the 787 and Concorde windows. I could be wrong but it almost seems like a hand could cover the majority of the window.
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6$\begingroup$ Very related: What are the factors behind increasing aircraft window sizes $\endgroup$– Peter KämpfCommented Jan 2, 2020 at 10:22
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4$\begingroup$ The guy on the right has bigger hands. $\endgroup$– PerlDuckCommented Jan 2, 2020 at 16:10
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2$\begingroup$ IMO, this is a direct duplicate of the Question @PeterKämpf posted $\endgroup$– Jamiec ♦Commented Jan 2, 2020 at 18:52
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$\begingroup$ @Jamiec I didn’t take anyone’s question $\endgroup$– George Clooney In a MooneyCommented Jan 2, 2020 at 19:06
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$\begingroup$ @Firefighter1 no, you misunderstand. I don't mean you copied the question, I mean we already have a very similar question that answers yours. It's called a duplicate. $\endgroup$– Jamiec ♦Commented Jan 2, 2020 at 19:39
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The Concorde flew above 15,000m. At this altitude a sudden reduction in cabin pressure would prove hazardous to crew and passengers with most falling unconscious within a few seconds. The low air-pressure would also render the oxygen supply system inefficient and most passengers would suffer from hypoxia.
Thus we have the reason for the smaller windows, should a breach occur then the size of the hole being small would reduce the rate if loss of air-pressure inside the cabin. This, combined with a reserve air-supply to augment the cabin-pressure as well as a rapid rate of descent manoeuvre to bring the aircraft to a safe altitude would reduce the the risk of hypoxia. So basically the small windows were designed to reduce the rate of air escape from the cabin should a hull breach occur.
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3$\begingroup$ Nice first answer! Do you have a source for this? $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 2, 2020 at 9:47
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6$\begingroup$ I very much doubt that a descent to 4000 m from 15000 m within the time it takes to suffocate would had been possible. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 2, 2020 at 10:24
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3$\begingroup$ @PeterKämpf in a rapid decompression at 55000 ft a fit person might last 15 sec, but a smoker, probably 1/3 to 1/2 of passengers at the time, would be out cold in about 5-10 seconds. Even if masks dropped, probably a third of the pax, those that failed to don masks immediately, would be unconscious before they got past 40000 ft. The little windows and secondary method to dump extra air into the cabin (I'm guessing an emergency bleed source) seems to be intended to buy a bit of extra time to give pax a chance to don masks. $\endgroup$– John KCommented Jan 2, 2020 at 15:57
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2$\begingroup$ @JohnK: Thank you for the explanation, the window size was indeed part of the emergency procedure. I still wonder how much of that was wishful thinking and how much was proven procedure. $\endgroup$ Commented Jan 2, 2020 at 18:40
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2$\begingroup$ Well at 40000 feet you might have 30-45 seconds to get your mask on, so they must've calculated they could slow the depressurization just enough to buy that little bit of extra time. Now I'm curious to find out how this supplemental air system worked. $\endgroup$– John KCommented Jan 2, 2020 at 19:13
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The fuselage is a pressure tank, the window is a hole in the construction of the pressure tank. Adding windows also adds weight: the pressure vessel construction must be reinforced around the hole. The window glass is obviously airtight, but does not contribute in absorbing any of the stresses of the pressure differential.
The window size is a function of:
- The pressure differential. The higher the aeroplane flies, the larger the pressure differential between internal and external pressure.
- The relative size of the hole, relative to the fuselage diameter, fuselage length, and aerodynamic bending forces.
For construction engineers, the best size of a window is zero. The windows in Concorde must be smaller because the fuselage diameter is much less than that of a B787 while it must handle a higher pressure differential.
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Airflow Rate through an Orifice will help give some idea of the time it takes for the cabin of the Concorde to evacuate after one window blows at 60,000 feet as follows:
Volume of the cabin: $50m × pi × 2m^2 = 620 m^3$, Diameter of orifice: $0.15 m$
Rate of outflow from calculator software, averaged for pressure difference from T0 to T fully evacuated: around $150 m^3/min$ yielding roughly 180 to 240 seconds to full evacuation, without pressure equalization (reserve air-supply), with debilitating unmasked hypoxia sooner.
The location of the orifice (open window), on the side of the fuselage, could possibly cause even lower evacuation time values due to the Bernoulli effect of the passing airstream.
This underscores the point of view that strengthening the windows was indeed of critical importance. Further examination of air replenishment capacity and emergency descent capability are in order, as newer versions of these supersonic transports may yet return to commercial use.
answered Jan 3, 2020 at 21:59