# What were the effects of the oil crises on the Concorde ticket prices?

One of the things that is considered to have greatly hampered Concorde's success were the dramatic oil price increases due to the 1973 oil crisis (the 1979 one surely didn't help either, but it was too late already).

Wikipedia tells me that the 1973 oil crisis resulted in crude oil prices being multiplied by four. How much could this have affected Concorde's projected ticket prices ?

This is a very complex question, because I'm really interested in how much this affected the commercial case of Concorde, meaning a standard occupancy rate would need to be considered (ideally what was considered initially for Concorde if anyone has any idea...). But due to the difficulties of Concorde, the occupancy rate was usually very low (surely much lower than projected without the oil crisis), to the point that actual ticket prices surely ended up reflecting that. But that is a triggered consequence I would like to be able to distinguish from the original factor (after that we can of course add the calculation when the occupancy rate gets reduced as a result).

Basically :

• Do you know what were the pre-crisis projected stabilized (ie non-initial) ticket prices of a given long range Concorde flight ? That would be immensely helpful ;

• Do you know how much a 4x increase in crude oil prices at the time would have affected this projected ticket prices, all other things being equal (same occupancy rate, etc) ? If we knew typical jet fuel prices at the time (pre- and post-crisis), seems like an estimate of the additional "first degree" cost per ticket could be reached by dividing fuel capacity over expected number of passengers. Adding benefit margin and we would have an estimate of price increase.

Thanks.

• The Concorde used one gallon per passenger per 17 miles of distance flown. Paris to New York is 3636 miles, so the price differential is 214 times the cost increase per gallon of fuel. Nov 20, 2016 at 9:43
• Thanks for the first bit of info (that's the cost differential though, some margin to be added for price). Now we'd need the $price increase of jet fuel at the time and at least the second part of the question can be answered. I hope information for the first part is not going to be too hard to come by. Nov 20, 2016 at 9:50 • You should also take inflation into account when speaking of a price multiplication over several years. The equation may be quite complex (I like this question) Aug 26, 2019 at 20:45 ## 1 Answer The Concorde started service only in 1976, so there never were actual pre-crisis prices. This makes your first question impossible to answer. Of course the airlines which ordered the Concorde had their plans how much to charge, but kept that a commercial secret. When service started, the plane lost money. What happened next is an interesting lesson in economics. From A Pricing Lesson from the Concorde: The Concorde team decided to do some market research. They asked businessmen how much they thought a Concorde ticket cost. The answer, “Most of them didn’t know. It was their secretaries or travel companies doing the bookings. When they were asked to guess, because they were senior, very important people, they all guessed that the fare was higher. ” – explained Captain Jock Lowe, Concorde resource & Planning Manager. This insight led to a new pricing strategy. Captain Lowe described “So very simply, we said, we’ll charge them what they think they are paying. And so we put the fares up”. There was a discrepancy between what the company was charging and the value customers saw in the product. Concorde ticket prices were doubled to over$7,000, one way, in today’s prices. As a result, Concorde was repositioned to provide a super-elite class for bankers, the rich, and the famous. Concorde became the place to be seen.

Generally, ticket prices were 1st class + 20%. So what affected ticket prices most was the all too human tendency to show off; the mechanism that makes luxury brands possible. Fuel became less significant.

Now let's look at the fuel cost. This table only starts in 1975 (but covers the full operational history of Concorde), and when I apply your factor of four, the pre-1973 price of jet fuel would had been 8 cent per Gallon. This means the nominal price has gone up by a factor of 50 when compared to the peak in 2008.

The Concorde typically needed 214 Gallons of fuel per passenger on the Paris - New York route (see my comment for evidence; using @mins much better source gives 236 Gallons), so that means fuel cost per ticket would look like the plot above, multiplied by 214 or 236. At the start of operations in 1976 that would had been about 70 USD per ticket, would had jumped to 200 USD per ticket at the start of 1981, would had dipped below 100 USD briefly in mid-1986 and again in 1998. The peak would had been above 800 USD in mid-2008 had the Concorde still been in operation at that time and would today be nearly 300 USD.

• I know Concorde never started commercial flights pre-crisis. But it was built with pre-crisis prices in mind, and that's what I'm interested in. I fully agree this information would be very difficult to get (I wouldn't say impossible, as some people did have access to it at the time, so it's possible someone could share it). Nov 20, 2016 at 14:00
• Now, about the fuel costs, if we want to compare it to ticket prices, we have to make sure either both or neither are inflation compensated. The 7000\$ figure for ticket prices is inflation compensated (ie in current dollars), but the 8 cent a gallon isn't (it's 0.08 of a 1975-dollar). Nov 20, 2016 at 14:04
• @ParkerLewis: Actual prices were all over the place. Just use the 1st class +20% for further calculation. Nov 20, 2016 at 14:48