8
$\begingroup$

I am a private pilot. I posed a question to instructors in the flight school and got differing answers. For a given aircraft, landing at the same speed, with everything the same except for landing weight, and using maximum braking without skidding the tires, which will stop in a shorter distance after the wheels touch down: the plane at max gross weight, or the same plane lightly loaded?

I submit that because the heavy plane has more energy to dissipate, it would take longer to stop. Some instructors said that because there is more weight on the wheels, the heavier plane would stop in a shorter distance. I think it is a simple energy conversion physics issue.

$\endgroup$
4
  • 2
    $\begingroup$ First "because the heavy plane has more energy to dissipate, it would take longer to stop" isn't necessarily true. More energy just means the brake gets hotter after the plane lands and nothing else. What actually makes a difference is aerodynamics, like air brakes, spoilers, reverse thrust. Also you made a very unrealistic requirement that airspeed being equal. Say you have an airshow and want to show off short field landing technique you would always unload the plane to nothing but minimum fuel and the thing just lands like feather. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 21, 2017 at 23:21
  • $\begingroup$ Pretty sure you are right. That's one of the reasons why aircraft dump fuel before landing in an emergency return to field. $\endgroup$
    – Trevor_G
    Commented Oct 21, 2017 at 23:39
  • $\begingroup$ Interesting question, but know that in the "real world" (with larger airplanes, where the differences are more exaggerated than a light airplane) landing distance goes down with a decrease in weight, but this is mainly attributed to the reduction in approach speed as the weight decreases. It may also be why you are getting different answers: some people may be missing the significance of the "at the same speed" point and answering just based on knowledge of actual airplane performance charts. $\endgroup$
    – Lnafziger
    Commented Apr 8, 2018 at 23:56
  • $\begingroup$ @user3528438: A heavier airplane will decelerate more slowly than a light one (because A=F/M, and increasing M decreases A), thus taking longer to stop, thus having a longer landing roll. $\endgroup$
    – Vikki
    Commented Oct 11, 2019 at 5:34

6 Answers 6

14
$\begingroup$

If you discount aerodynamic effects, and assume the same landing speed, on a theoretical level mass makes no difference. The additional kinetic energy to be dissipated is exactly cancelled by the additional normal force. The kinetic energy is given by the formula:

E = 1/2 mv², where

  • E is the kinetic energy
  • m is the vehicle's mass
  • v is the speed at the start of braking

The work done by braking is given by:

W = μmgd, where

  • W is work done
  • μ is the coefficient of friction between the road surface and the tires
  • g is the gravity of Earth
  • d is the distance travelled

The braking distance given an initial speed v is then found by putting W = E, from which it follows that

d = v²/2μg

  • d = minimum stopping distance
  • v = velocity when brakes were applied
  • μ = coeff. of friction between wheels and road
  • g = gravitational constant

Mass is removed from the equation. The kinetic energy is tranferred into heat, so the larger the mass the more heat is generated. But theoretically the stopping distance is unaffected.

In reality, though, the coefficient of friction of tires does not remain constant with changing normal force. As normal force increases the coefficient of friction (μ) of tires decreases.

Since the μ does not remain linear with mass a heavier plane will have an increase in kinetic energy which is higher than the corresponding increase in friction of the tires, thus a longer stopping distance.

All of this assumes that “maximum braking” means you have as much brake power available as the maximum friction force of the tires. Above a certain weight/speed this will not be the case for an airliner. They are designed for a particular amount of deceleration force at MTOW and that will be less than the amount of friction tires can provide on a dry runway. (See this question for more details on that.) That will also cause a heavier plane to roll farther.

$\endgroup$
2
  • 1
    $\begingroup$ Note that usually on dry surface the brakes exert much less force than the tires could handle. $\endgroup$
    – Jan Hudec
    Commented Oct 22, 2017 at 19:28
  • $\begingroup$ @JanHudec Thanks. Added a paragraph about that $\endgroup$
    – TomMcW
    Commented Oct 23, 2017 at 19:18
6
$\begingroup$

Yes the maximum friction (and therefore braking) force is a linear function of weight. The higher braking force cancels out the higher kinetic energy, if we assume:

  • That the landing speed is equal at the higher weight.
  • That the lift dumpers are not operated.
  • That all the wheels have brakes.
  • That the brakes can get rid of all of the heat at the higher weight, without blowing the tyres.

Landing Speed. Braking distance is a quadratic function of touchdown speed. For a small weight increase, we can maintain the same landing speed without much safety implication. Sure airliners dump fuel when attempting a landing close to max gross weight, but that is mainly to limit the touchdown slam, the main gears are not dimensioned for doing this at TO weight. Making the observation at the same landing speed is a really important limitation though, since braking distance is equal to landing speed square.

Residual lift. Lift dumpers remove lift: just after touchdown, the wing still creates considerable lift which reduces the normal (and therefore braking) force. Since the landing speed does not change in our assumptions, the lift decrease is the same, regardless of weight: $ F_N = W - L + \Delta L$. If we take two gross weights and work out the percentage of down force, we get:

enter image description here

So the higher landing weight keeps a higher downforce percentage after deploying spoilers etc. If we consider residual lift, the higher weight causes a shorter braking distance.

Nose Wheel Brake. enter image description here

Usually, only the main wheels have brakes, but braking creates a forward moment which reduces the downforce on the main wheels. The magnitude of the effect depends on the height of the c.g. off of the ground, but if the nose wheel has no brakes, this effect increases braking distance at higher weight.

Heat buildup This is another factor that increases quadratically with landing velocity, and only linearly with weight. The brakes are dimensioned for emergency stop below V1 after engine fail, so they will cope with a normal landing at normal weights.

All in all, there is one effect that decreases landing distance as function of landing weight, and one that increases landing distance. We could say that they cancel each other out and that at the same landing speed and within normal limits, braking distance is independent of weight.

But the very shortest landing distance is at the very lightest weight: stay just above stall speed for the weight, even a small reduction is speed has a large effect on distance.

$\endgroup$
0
1
$\begingroup$

As a practical matter, the aircraft you describe will not fly as you assume. You would have to land very differently at the lighter weight to get the plane on the ground at the same speed as at the heavier weight. With normal landing technique you will touch down a good bit slower at the lighter weight. This will result in a much shorter rollout, as kinetic energy varies with speed squared.

The other answers deal better with your theoretical impossibility.)

$\endgroup$
0
$\begingroup$

The key to this question is "maximum braking without skidding the tires".

With a clean dry surface, the lighter plane at equal speed stops faster. On a slippery or icy surface, the tables are turned, and a lighter plane will skid much more easily and take longer to stop, due to less traction. The brakes stop the wheels, but the wheels will not stop the plane.

Notice ABS brakes will not help here, as they release the wheel as soon as it starts to skid.

Under slippery conditions, it is good to dump as much lift as you can once the plane is down. This would include raising flaps and using spoilers to maximum. And reverse thrust is certainly a good thing to have too.

Experience in the type of plane you fly will help fine tune this knowledge, and a slower landing speed a lighter plane can manage has major impacts on landing roll-out distance, but beware the slippery surface when light. Here stopping distance is much more unpredictable, and doubling the normal expected stopping distance is not a bad idea.

$\endgroup$
0
$\begingroup$

Landing at the same speed, there is one particular type of aircraft that will stop after a shorter distance if it is heavier: taildraggers.

Trying not to discount aerodynamic effects, the fact that one airplane is heavier than the other implies that the heavier one will need to touch the ground at higher angle of attack than the lighter one. Which means a greater induced drag between wheel contact and full stop.

It also allows to apply a greater braking force, since relative to wheels' contact point, center of gravity is further back when angle of attack is high (tail down).

$\endgroup$
-1
$\begingroup$

One thing is right in your demonstration: braking distance is independent of airplane mass. However, it is the braking force that stop the airplane, not the heat produced by braking. The heat and noise produced during braking only consume a small portion of the kinetic energy of the airplane.

The practice of wheel braking has been in use for over 1,000 years. But as far as literature review can go, It looks like the theory of wheel braking has not been correctly understood by the academics and the industry.

$\endgroup$
2
  • $\begingroup$ Welcome to aviation.SE! As a Q&A site, we expect answers to answer the specific question that was asked. We also like to see sources and references where possible. The tour might be interesting if you're new here. $\endgroup$
    – Pondlife
    Commented Nov 23, 2019 at 23:01
  • $\begingroup$ " The heat and noise produced during braking only consume a small portion of the kinetic energy of the airplane" This begs the question of where do you think this energy goes, if not into the brake discs? $\endgroup$ Commented Nov 25, 2019 at 14:30

You must log in to answer this question.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged .