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The POH always has weight and balance charts. Let's say you install some new avionics, hence changing the weight of the aircraft. Do you need to update the POH binder with new weight & balance charts? What about take-off/landing distance information?

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    $\begingroup$ Are you interested in a specific country or regulator? The general answer is yes, but if you want pointers to regulations then you should mention which country you want to know about. $\endgroup$
    – Pondlife
    Commented May 2, 2017 at 13:36

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For the US under the FAA, Yes you do!

From the FAA WB handbook

Changes of fixed equipment may have a major effect upon the weight of the aircraft. Many aircraft are overloaded by the installation of extra radios or instruments. Fortunately, the replacement of older, heavy electronic equipment with newer, lighter types results in a weight reduction. This weight change, however helpful, can cause the CG to shift, which must be computed and annotated in the weight and balance record.

For larger repairs.

Repairs and alterations are the major sources of weight changes. It is the responsibility of the FAA-certificate mechanic or repairman making any repair or alteration to know the weight and location of a change, to compute the CG, record the new empty weight and EWCG in the aircraft weight and balance record, and update the equipment lists.

Generally this is done by the shop that installs them. If you as the owner/operator installs them (which you are permitted to do to some extent) you may need to have a new WB drafted up.

This is also checked at anual every year,

The FAA-certificated mechanic or repairman conducting an annual or condition inspection must ensure the weight and balance data in the aircraft records is current and accurate. It is the responsibility of the PIC to use the most current weight and balance data when operating the aircraft.

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    $\begingroup$ There is no requirement for this information to be carried in the POH. The weight and balance records are generally part of the aircraft logbook. $\endgroup$
    – J W
    Commented May 2, 2017 at 13:39
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    $\begingroup$ There is however a requirement for it to be in the AFM as per § 23.1583 $\endgroup$
    – Dave
    Commented May 2, 2017 at 13:56
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    $\begingroup$ Regarding the following quote: "which you are permitted to do to some extent", non-mechanic operators are generally prohibited from performing repairs or alterations which would impact weight and balance. $\endgroup$
    – J W
    Commented May 2, 2017 at 13:57
  • $\begingroup$ But they are more than legally aloud to install tray based avionics (which falls into the question here) hence the "to some extent". $\endgroup$
    – Dave
    Commented May 2, 2017 at 13:59
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    $\begingroup$ @JScarry you are correct that weight and balance information is generally provided with the AFM (but not by FAA requirement!). And you are correct that this information is generally updated as a way of updating weight and balance info. However, note that an AFM is different than a POH. As a mechanic, I have always kept separate, detailed weight and balance information in logbooks. $\endgroup$
    – J W
    Commented May 2, 2017 at 14:08
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Yes, any change in equipment attached to the aircraft requires a new weight and balance update. The weight and balance data are required for flight, but a photocopy is acceptable. In most operations I have been involved with, there is a binder or folder of required papers, and W&B is stored there, along with radio licenses, etc. POH formats vary, and some are not in binders. As a matter of practicality, the current W&B data must be readily available to the pilot and crew.

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  • $\begingroup$ Having current weight and balance documentation on board the aircraft for flight is not, in fact, a general requirement for operation under §91. Some aircraft TCDS may require it, but 14 CFR does not. That the weight and balance documentation is included, as a matter of practicality, in the documentation available on board the aircraft does not render it part of the required documentation for all aircraft operating under §91. Operation under other parts—§135, for example—is a slightly different matter. $\endgroup$
    – J W
    Commented May 2, 2017 at 17:28
  • $\begingroup$ Whether a flight is within the operating limitations of the aircraft is predicated on having W&B data. Without the data, the determination cannot be made. Whether that data is in a W&B worksheet, the POH specific and amended for that aircraft, or scribbled on the back of someone's hand does not matter, but it must be available. Practically, a photocopy of the W&B is the easiest and a common way to have it readily available. $\endgroup$
    – mongo
    Commented May 2, 2017 at 18:22
  • $\begingroup$ The calculation needs to be made, or the determination must otherwise be made, but no written documentation of that is required, nor is any such documentation required to be on board the aircraft. This is not the case for §135, but that is a different matter. In this case of an alteration leading to a change in the empty weight and/or balance, the current data must be recorded and available to the pilot, but need not be in the POH, nor on board the aircraft. $\endgroup$
    – J W
    Commented May 2, 2017 at 18:29
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Yes, the empty weight and center of gravity data does need to be updated.

Anytime weight or center of gravity is changed, the mechanic must update the aircraft weight and balance. This information must be available to the pilot prior to flight, and is often included in the POH as an additional sheet or otherwise copied into the flight manual. In this way, the answer to your larger question is, yes.

However, if you are referring to the generic charts for the purpose of calculating weight and balance, the answer is no, these generic charts do not require updating. Conversely, an approved Airplane Flight Manual (AFM), will generally include weight and balance information that is specific to that aircraft. This information should be updated, or a note should be made invalidating the outdated data and referring the flight crew to the current data.

Typically when a change such as avionics installation takes place, the mechanic will compute a weight and balance change based on the item weight and installation position. However, the aircraft can be re-weighed to satisfy the same requirement.

The FAA states that mechanics should update the weight and balance record whenever an alteration such as an equipment change takes place. See the following paragraphs from page 1-3 of FAA-H-8083-1B, the "Weight and Balance Handbook".

Changes of fixed equipment may have a major effect upon the weight of the aircraft. Many aircraft are overloaded by the installation of extra radios or instruments. Fortunately, the replacement of older, heavy electronic equipment with newer, lighter types results in a weight reduction. This weight change, however helpful, can cause the CG to shift, which must be computed and annotated in the weight and balance record.

Repairs and alterations are the major sources of weight changes. It is the responsibility of the FAA-certificate mechanic or repairman making any repair or alteration to know the weight and location of a change, to compute the CG, record the new empty weight and EWCG in the aircraft weight and balance record, and update the equipment lists.

Note that the aircraft weight and balance record is generally a part of the aircraft maintenance logbooks, which are typically not carried on board the aircraft. The change in weight and balance is typically noted in the POH by inserting a photocopy or otherwise transferring the applicable information. In regards to these choices of where to store the required maintenance information, including the current weight and balance data, the operator is often free to choose according to convenience. There is no general requirement in 14 CFR to carry current empty weight and center of gravity data on board the aircraft for flights operating under §91.

Flights operating under 14 CFR, Subchapter G will, or may, have different operating requirements. For example, an air carrier authorized to operate under §135 is generally required to carry, on board the aircraft on flights operated under §135, a completed load manifest documenting weight and balance computations. However, for flights operated under §91, such documentation is not generally required.

Note: This answer addresses operations under FAA jurisdiction.

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  • $\begingroup$ I did not downvote, but anytime you change the equipment in an aircraft, a new weight and balance must be computed. The POH must be updated to include the new weight of the aircraft, usually this is done with a supplement which has to be kept in the aircraft. I just went through this in my aircraft when we installed the Garmin GTX345. The weight changed by a whole pound, and the paperwork probably weighed more than the changes. $\endgroup$
    – Ron Beyer
    Commented May 2, 2017 at 13:55
  • $\begingroup$ @RonBeyer So did you go through it all again with the changed weight of the written material? (tongue in cheek) $\endgroup$
    – user
    Commented May 2, 2017 at 14:03
  • $\begingroup$ To whomever downvoted, I would be interested in understanding what I have gotten wrong. Thank you. $\endgroup$
    – J W
    Commented May 2, 2017 at 14:06
  • $\begingroup$ @JonathanWalters The POH is not always generic, mine is serialized and tied to my airframe. It includes specific equipment, weight, and balance information. That information is invalidated when new equipment is installed. $\endgroup$
    – Ron Beyer
    Commented May 2, 2017 at 14:08
  • $\begingroup$ @MichaelKjörling You mean the large envelope of paper the avionics shop gave us and we threw in the back? I know it has paper in it :) They also were nice enough to give us a USB drive with all the new paperwork on it, I did read the manuals, but not the supplements. $\endgroup$
    – Ron Beyer
    Commented May 2, 2017 at 14:09

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