Timeline for When did Piccard reach his record altitude of 23 km (75,500 ft)?
Current License: CC BY-SA 4.0
11 events
when toggle format | what | by | license | comment | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Nov 4, 2021 at 15:28 | comment | added | mins | @Giovanni: "user mins has lifted the veil, they deleted their comment meanwhile", but the relevant information is not lost, it is part of this answer. | |
Nov 4, 2021 at 15:17 | comment | added | Jpe61 | Let us continue this discussion in chat. | |
Nov 4, 2021 at 15:17 | comment | added | Jpe61 | Ah. Ok then. You win. | |
Nov 4, 2021 at 15:15 | comment | added | Giovanni | No, because they still claim "the" Kármán line is at 100 km (62.14 mi) when in fact it's much lower on average. And there's no single Kármán line, it depends on the plane in question. A symposium to revisit the Kármán line should have been held in 2019 but they cancelled it. | |
Nov 4, 2021 at 13:53 | comment | added | Jpe61 | So you would agree that FAI is a reputable source now? History is fluid. | |
Nov 4, 2021 at 11:55 | comment | added | Giovanni | There could have indeed been a flight in which Piccard parachuted out of the gondola (but there wasn't as is now clear). Titov's flight is listed today but things were different in the 1960s. | |
Nov 4, 2021 at 11:16 | comment | added | Jpe61 | Are we to discuss flights during which Auguste Piccard exited his condola? Oh, and pls check your facts, German Stepanovich Titov's flight on august 7th 1961 is listed as FAI world record for both duration (25h 11min) and distance (703143km) @Giovanni | |
Nov 4, 2021 at 10:18 | comment | added | Giovanni | Right, concerning the pilots themselves. E.g. German Titov performed the then-longest spaceflight in Vostok 2, becoming the first man to stay in space for more than 24 hours. The FAI didn't care because the cosmonauts eject themselves out of the Vostok before its touchdown, so the FAI declared John Glenn in Friendship 7 as staying longest in space (he made 3 orbits). The Soviet Union did the right thing by not participating in the FAI. | |
Nov 4, 2021 at 9:45 | comment | added | Jpe61 | Well that would be a question of categorizing, not reputability (is that a word 🤔). So FAI does not have a category for altitude records where the aircraft is not landed in a controlled manner, I presume? | |
Nov 4, 2021 at 6:24 | comment | added | Giovanni | The FAI is anything but a reputable source. They didn't count any flight in which the pilot(s) left their aircraft on their own rather than landing with it, and they didn't count any flight in which the aircraft was launched from another carrier rather than by itself. That's why e.g. Bill Bridgeman's, Marion Carl's and Arthur Murray's flights aren't FAI records, not even Iven C. Kincheloe's spaceflight. But user mins has lifted the veil, they deleted their comment meanwhile but they post a link to an interview with Piccard which makes clear Piccard didn't perform any such flight to 22 km. | |
Nov 3, 2021 at 22:01 | history | answered | Jpe61 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |