Questions tagged [turbulence]
Questions about air turbulence, clear air turbulence, or other air movements that cause loss of control and discomfort in flight
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Variables of Dryden Wind Model
How to determine the turbulence intensities (σu, σv, σw), scale lengths (Lu, Lv, Lw) & Angular frequency (ω0) in the given Dryden wind model to generate wind speeds (u_w, v_w, w_w) of civil jet ...
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Why hasn't there been a case of an airliner breaking apart and crashing due to turbulence in the past 40-50 years?
Most of the breakups involved clear air turbulence as well, the type that still can't be detected today.
Examples like:
Boeing 707 (BOAC Flight 911) - which crashed near Mt Fuji
BAC One-Eleven ...
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How does CONFIG FULL provide better handling capabilities in turbulent conditions?
I wanted to get some clarity as to how does CONFIG FULL provide better handling capabilities in turbulent conditions?
This line mentioned in the A320 FCTM under the the supplementary procedures ...
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Why is the air smoother when you get above the cloud base?
Why is it bumpier below where the clouds form and once you get above the bases the air tends to be smoothers?
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Are the turbulence reports by pilots via PIREPs used by other nearby aircraft or air traffic controllers to modify operations in any way?
I know the pilots are required to report turbulence experienced in the aircraft via PIREPs. The data for turbulence with lat,long,alt and the severity is available. I am wondering if the PIREPs are ...
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Could leading-edge dynamic stall occur for a tripped airfoil?
As far as I know leading-edge dynamic stall is characterized by the formation of a Leading edge vortex. This leading edge vortex forms due to the 'bursting' of the LSB (Laminar separation bubble). ...
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What are differences between vortex, swirl, eddies and wake?
These terms seem to have the same meanings. Can anyone differentiate them?
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Why does placing one hand on the head track stabilize you during turbulence?
At 0:40, Lufthansa Capt. Joachim Schwarzenberg advises
"Whenever we get turbulence and that can always be the case during 11 hours 40 on
such a long flight - that is also the flight time -
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How are Hurricane Hunter planes able to withstand G's as high as 6-7 G in turbulence if the plane is only rated for G loads much lower than that?
I found some conflicting reports on the G limit of the WP-3 Orion, but most sources say the G limit is 2.5 or 3 positive G, which would bring the ultimate load up to 3.7-4.5 G (as there is a 50% ...
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Which FARs does the Boeing 737 MAX conform to with respect to turbulence?
Based on this question/answer it seems that the FARs in relation to turbulence handling have been updated several times over the years. Does the Boeing 737 MAX conform to the latest FARs or to the ...
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People say that modern airliners are more resilient to turbulence, but I see that a 707 and a 787 still have the same G-rating. Why is this?
The 707 was introduced in the late 50's, the 787 in 2009.
Back when Air France 447 had recently gone missing, many were speculating that the aircraft had broken up in the turbulence associated with ...
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Do aerobatics pilots do more to account for turbulence in their flying than passenger plane pilots?
Non-aviator here. I was trying to make a comparison when talking to a friend earlier about how when you're trying to do something complicated and delicate, you have to do more to account for ...
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Is propeller wake turbulence quantifiable based on operating conditions?
I know the propeller does work on the air and thus the flow behind a propeller is higher than the airspeed. However, what is the quality of this flow? If I were doing a heat transfer analysis of an ...
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Turbulent flows over 6 series airfoils
6 Series Airfoils were developed to enhance the laminar flow region over the airfoil. But, the Reynolds number at which planes fly are high for the flow to be Laminar. Then what's point of introducing ...
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Does turbulent flow encourage/avert flow separation?
I know that turbulent flow has more energy than laminar flow and hence can sustain adverse pressure gradient for a longer period of time. It basically delays flows separation.
But referring to this ...
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Why do wings prefer laminar flow if cd is lower for turbulent flows?
Can anyone please explain to me why we prefer to maintain laminar flow over wings, despite the fact that the overall coefficient of drag appears to reduce as the Reynolds Number increases? I have read ...
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How much can a plane benefit from another planes wake?
Could a smaller plane fly in a V formation behind a much larger plane to reduce fuel consumption significantly more than a plane its own size? At what point does flying in a larger planes wake become ...
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Does a decreasing shape factor correspond to greater or reduced probability of separation?
The shape factor ($H=\frac{\delta^*}{\theta}$) is the ratio of displacement thickness, a measure of the thickness of the boundary layer, to the momentum thickness, a measure of the shear stress. I ...
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Do aircraft cabins have suspension?
On cars, we have 'shock absorber' suspension that decouples the passengers and loads from the road vibrations, bumps etc.
On planes do we have any form of suspension that decouples the passengers &...
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What needs to be done when experiencing severe turbulence at an altitude of FL270 with No ATC and Mode C failure? [closed]
Flying at FL270, you experience sever turbulence and Mode C failure, and the ATC channel is heavily Occupied, what should a pilot ideally do?
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Has turbulence ever killed a passenger?
The question is on my mind, because many passengers think there is no need to wear the seatbelt when the seatbelt sign is not illuminated.
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Would the wings of a Boeing 787 be snapped off in the same turbulence in which a DC-8 lost an engine and parts of a wing?
From forbes.com:
In 1992, a DC 8 cargo aircraft suffered turbulence so severe over the Front Range of Colorado’s Rocky Mountains that its left outboard engine was completely ripped off as well as ...
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How come the DC-8 plane can withstand +15G from turbulence, but newer planes can only withstand 20% of that amount?
Source - https://www.weather.gov/media/zhu/ZHU_Training_Page/turbulence_stuff/turbulence3/turbulence.pdf
(Scroll down for photos)
I figured out how many G's the cargo jet took by looking at the ...
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How to deal with turbulence while flying glider? (Cautions in applying rudder)
I just watched video explaining how the American Airline Flight 587 crashed
It led me to think about glider flying. The cause of that crash was that the first officer ...
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Why would a plane drop 14.000 ft mid flight?
Just noticed American Airlines flight 221 dropped 14.000 ft mid flight today. Curious, what could have caused this?
Here are the flight details.
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How to correct a roll due to turbulence?
I fly a Piper Cherokee 180 (PA-28-180) in an area that has frequent turbulence. When turbulence causes the aircraft to roll to one side I usually try to correct by using aileron and rudder in the ...
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What are the particular challenges faced when landing at Bristol airport (UK)?
Earlier this year I returned to Bristol on flight TOM-6633, and like most landings at Bristol the passengers found the experience physically immersive, attention grabbing, and at least a little ...
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How do commercial pilots know turbulence is ahead? [duplicate]
On commercial flights, an announcement will be made if turbulence is expected ahead and if the route will be adjusted such as moving to a higher altitude.
How do pilots know that turbulence is ahead ...
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How does a pilot tell passengers to prepare for severe turbulence without causing panic?
At the start of a flight, the pilot of an aircraft often talks about the expected weather on the flight path, and tells passengers if there is to be some turbulence during the flight.
How does a ...
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Can new technology help planes dodge turbulence? [duplicate]
With so many technological advancements happening in the aviation industry, will it be possible for airlines to smoothen the effects of turbulence, as turbulence cannot be eliminated?
The following ...
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What is the physical scale of the turbulence that affects large passenger planes?
What magnitude of displacement of air in turbulence conditions is large enough to affect (i.e. be noticeable in) an airliner?
Are there any minimum limits, so that even fiercely turbulent air below a ...
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If airliners and commercial planes have turbulence, can helicopters have turbulence?
I was watching a video of an V 22 (Osprey) taking off and it had that white cloudy stuff that looked like turbulence around the propellers. Can helicopters have turbulence too? I know an osprey is not ...
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Why does a plane shake while passing through clouds? [duplicate]
Why does a plane shake while passing through the clouds?
During my last journey all the other passengers started shouting when the plane was passing through clouds. It was the third time I was ...
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Why does wake turbulence sink?
There has been a remarkable story this week of a Challenger 604 business jet being rolled after encountering the wake turbulence of an A380.
A Challenger 604 at FL340 operating from Male-Abu Dhabi ...
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How is close formation flying possible with things like thermals and turbulence?
This weekend the Blue Angels came to town. The weather was less than perfect. A quick look at SkyVector during their show indicated there was an active AIRMET for moderate turbulence.
This made me ...
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Is there much turbulence in the Doldrums?
A place over the equator called the Doldrums are know for the severe lack of sailing winds. In the atmosphere above it is there any presence of turbulence anywhere? Where would the least year round ...
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Is there a way to avoid the effects of turbulence?
I am trying to determine the plausibility of a larger, broad question using a modified plane equipped with a modified E-fan and external electric ultra light weight rail. The power would be collected ...
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What are good tips for flying across Tejon pass?
I will be flying from Northern California to Southern California this weekend for the first time in a C172SP (KPAO to KFUL). My planned altitude is 9500 feet. I had a talked with my former instructor ...
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What might a pilot mean by "uncontrollable"?
The air safety reports from FlyDubai aircrew leaked to the Guardian contain some alarming stories about crew rostering, tiredness and duty times, but another one caught my eye, a description of an ...
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Is there always turbulence over China?
I'm not sure if this is appropriate to Aviation.SE, so apologies in advance if not.
I have taken several domestic flights over mainland China (as in, the People's Republic thereof) and, so far, it ...
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When to slow down to Va for turbulence?
I'm trying to figure out when it is safe to continue at normal cruise speed and when I should slow down to avoid over-stressing the airframe due to turbulence. (of course I have asked instructors but ...
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What flies better in turbulent wind?
I trying to find a way to stay in a jet stream unpowered for a larger question. Is there a glider, kite or plane that flies best when in turbulent weather?
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What is the aerodynamic effect of a panorama (skydeck) near the tail section of a commercial airline?
A company called Windspeed Technologies posted the following concept video of a panorama seating option aboard a commercial plane.
From the limited understanding I have of the phenomena called flow ...
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Are most/all flights affected by a noticeable amount of turbulence?
How common is turbulence that is severe enough to feel uncomfortable? I don't mean a little shaking here and there, but a drop that lasts a second or two.
Last 2 flights I was on (Paris to Singapore, ...
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How does radar detect turbulence and wind speed?
In an answer to a questions about turbulence this answer mentioned that aircraft use radar to help detect the most turbulent areas of a storm so that pilots can avoid them.
How does radar do this? ...
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How dangerous was the turbulence on this commercial flight?
EDIT: Having read these great answers I feel a little ashamed for the fear I felt on this recent flight. However, judging by my reaction to the experience and the reaction of those around me on the ...
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How to control fear of flying? [closed]
Four months ago I travelled to US (my 3rd time visit) from India. I always have that aerophobia just before and during flying but it has grown exponentially when the American Airlines flight took-off ...
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Do we shake more if we are seated towards the tail rather than in the middle or the front? [duplicate]
Just like in buses on road, we feel more shaky when we sit in the back seats than the driver and other sitting in front. Is it the same for flights when we are in clouds?
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Where should I sit to experience the least turbulence?
Following on from Why are first/business class seats at the front?, in which part of a large commercial jet cabin would I experience the least turbulence? On the one hand I would have said that ...
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What are some ways to decrease turbulence?
I know there are ways turbulence can be reduced, but what are these ways that keep the ride comforting and also with better stability.
