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A SID (Standard Instrument Departure) is a waypoint out of an airport and onto the airway structure. A STAR (Standard Terminal Arrival Route) is a waypoint into an airport from the airway structure.

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Does a subsequent crossing restriction supersede earlier crossing restrictions?

Does a subsequent crossing restriction supersede earlier crossing restrictions? Here's an example. While flying the MIP4 arrival into KLGA, you receive the expected instruction to cross MARRC at ...
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Why does obstacle clearance area splay outward instead of being a rectangle?

I am having trouble figuring out the logic behind the way that obstacle clearance areas are constructed. Take, for example, a departure procedure where Initial Climb Area is defined in TERPS (section ...
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What are the “parts” of a SID procedure?

In the ARINC 424 (downloadable from this link), the following information about SIDs procedures is given in the section 5.7 Route Type (RT TYPE): As you can see, it appears to me that a procedure is ...
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Anybody know the reason for the ‘Star Wars’ themed STARs into KATL?

There are new RNAV STARs for arrival into Atlanta Class Bravo for KATL. Does anybody know the reason a Star Wars theme was chosen for waypoint names eg TYFTR, WOKIE, NWHPE, etc?
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How is a flight routed from the last waypoint of a STAR to final?

If you look at a flight plan on FlightAware, the last code will be a STAR. Take a flight into JFK, for example, that uses LENDY6: the last waypoint of LENDY6 is the LGA VOR/DME at FL190. If the plane ...
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Symbology on standard terminal arrival (STAR) charts: T-ended vs arrow-ended lines?

I was looking at the STARs at KPHX. The ARLIN FOUR arrival here has T-ended lines between the BLYTHE VOR and SCOLE, and between SCOLE and CALIE fixes. It also has arrow-ended lines between CALIE and ...
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Does a turbojet aircraft restriction on a SID or STAR also apply to turbofan aircraft?

Just wondering since I've never seen turbofan aircraft mentioned on SID or STAR charts, and many airliners are turbofan nowadays.
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If a SID chart says “GPS… required”, can the plane use a different GNSS?

This US/FAA standard instrument departure says "Note: GPS or DME/DME/IRU required." If the aircraft could tune into a different GNSS like GLONASS, could the pilot still legally fly the departure ...
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What does “ATS climb gradient” mean?

On a Jeppesen SID chart, the climb gradient is not standard, because it's greater than 3.3%. What specifically does the ATS (7.4%) climb gradient mean?
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“Cancel altitude restriction.” Under ICAO rules, does it cancel all altitude restrictions on a SID or STAR chart?

Let's say there are altitude restrictions at 5000ft, 11000ft, 15000ft, 18000ft on a SID chart. While you were following the SID (under ICAO rules), the Departure tells you "Climb 12000ft, cancel ...
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Need help to clarify the terms “arrival”, “departure”, “approach”, “terminal” and “transition” fix for US STAR and SIDS

I find it a bit difficult to clarify, while consulting the US published STAR and SID published charts, which fixes are designated as arrival, departure, approach, terminal and transition. Could ...
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Why some US STAR fixes/waypoints are included in FAA's legacy files but not in FAA's published STAR procedures?

I have noticed that some US STAR procedures include (slightly) different number of waypoints, depending on which source material is consulted. Take for example the CAMRN4 STAR and its corresponding ...
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How to interpret the published altitudes for each of US STAR procedures?

I have been studying the STAR procedures, as published by FAA, and I am trying to understand the way that the altitudes are defined for each fix/route. Take, for example, CAMRN4 of JFK. I see the MEA ...
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Does TRACON airspace override Class B airspace in terms of control authority when controlling approach or departure procedures?

This is a simple schematic description of Class Airspace. My understanding is that Class B has strict rules, specific lower and upper altitude limits and requires clearance to enter. However, I have ...
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How to select a SID during the planning stage?

During the planning stage of an IFR flight how to choose the correct SID for your route in an airport with multiple runways and multiple SIDs? and how to predict the runway you will be going to use?
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Is it always the case that any one STAR leads to all the runways?

I was making an addon for a flight simulator and I am having a problem figuring this scenario out: Let's take CYOW - Macdonald Cartier international. It has 6 runways: 04, 07, 14, 22, 25, 32. It has ...
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Are you cleared to next altitude when you get “direct” while flying SID?

Let's say you just took off from the TACOMA airport and were flying ATOME TWO DEP. ARRIE transition. The Seattle tower instructs you "direct to ZUMBI" and to contact Departure, and you contact ...
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What altitude should you cross DBIGE at on the PALLEY FIVE Departure (SID)?

While at Henderson Executive airport you receive an IFR clearance containing the phraseology "Climb Via the PALLEY FIVE Departure, Coaldale Transition" and you receive no additional altitude ...
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Where can I find a database of SIDs, STARs and approaches?

I am investigating SIDs, STARs and approach procedures. I have a couple of questions about it: Is there a way to get SID, STAR, and approach data from airports around the world? I don't mean from the ...
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Does a “climb and maintain” instruction override a “climb via the SID” one?

This question pertains to the SNSHN THREE SID out of Ontario, CA (KONT). Let's say I was originally cleared to "climb via the SNSHN departure except maintain 8,000". Then the clearance is amended ...
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How to guess the actual name of the SID, waypoint, etc., if you have never seen it when told by ATC?

Sometimes it's very tricky as those identifiers are not normal words. For example how to find a way-point you have to go direct to if it's not on the flight plan? SID and STARS can be reviewed before ...
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Why did the MSA for Taipei (RTCP) change?

I got a question about the Minimum Sector Altitude (MSA) on Jeppesen arrival plate (RCTP 20-2). The MSA circle was divided into three sectors with three altitude before (2008, top image), but I found ...
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Are 'climb via a SID' instructions actually used in the US?

In the USA, a departing aircraft is instructed to climb: to flight level and maintain, or via standard instrument departure (SID) That's according to US Aeronautical Information Publication (AIP). ...
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What does this NOTAM about a STAR mean?

When planning an IFR Flight into KTPA using the BRDGE 8 STAR, I saw this NOTAM: !FDC 7/5458 (KTPA A1015/17) TPA STAR TAMPA INTL, TAMPA, FL BRDGE EIGHT ARRIVAL... BRDGE STAR UNUSEABLE BELOW 5000FT ...
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Why isn't the Transition Altitude depicted on SID charts?

Why isn't the Transition Altitude depicted on SID charts? I would assume it would be a relevant information to be presented on this type of chart.
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Do Jeppesen SIDs have top altitude?

FAA SID charts show the top altitude, the maximum altitude you can climb to when cleared for the SID. Do Jeppesen SID charts also show the top altitude? I checked some of them but couldn't find it. If ...
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What's the precise meaning of “landing south (north, east, west)” in STARs?

"JetBlue six zero two leaving flight level two one zero descending via the Ivane Two arrival landing south." Does "landing south" here mean the aircraft will be landing on the runways north to south?
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Where are the first two waypoints for runway 4R departures from KBOS?

Departure way points for Runway 4R at Logan Airport in Boston Massachusetts. Can anyone send me a map depicting where the first 2 way-points are for 4R Departures?
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What's a metering fix?

The Instrument Procedure Handbook says on page 3-18 "Arrival delays typically are absorbed at a metering fix. This fix is established on a route prior to the terminal airspace, 10000 feet or ...
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Can SID/STAR have shortened names?

I have a strange naming difference for a SID in a route. The route is: DOME4W DOMEG Y841 ANAVI DCT NVO UM170 KENUM UM615 IDOSA UN857 RESMI UN491 DITAL UN872 DIDAK UZ15 ARDOD A5 VALAX VALA1A I am ...
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What altitude to fly on a STAR when it reads “expect”?

I just took the instrument knowledge test and one of the questions referred to this STAR. Like many of the questions, there were two right answers and you were supposed to pick the one that was most ...
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Do GA IFR flights out of airports w/ SIDs typically use them? What about STARs?

Besides the IAPs (which as an IFR flight you're guaranteed to use unless cleared for the visual), there are the STARs and SIDs, and using them in slow GA aircraft doesn't fully make sense to me. For ...
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Is there a published airspeed and TPA for Class B approach at San Diego International?

I live in San Diego almost directly underneath the downwind leg of the normal approach (from the north) to Lindbergh Field (KSAN). The Class B airspace for the entire downwind and base leg areas is ...
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What Does “By ATC” Mean for an SID Route?

I can understand that altitudes may be "by ATC", but why can a route also be marked with "by ATC"? All SID routes need prior clearance by ATC, right? For example, in SID RWY 16 for ZGSZ/SZX, MEPOG-7X ...
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Why do SIDs include an MEA?

Let's say we're flying the JORJO2 SID (1,2) out of KPWK (RBS transition). We are told "climb via the SID". Page 2 of the SID says "maintain 3000" but the MEA on page 1 is 4000. Is there ever a time ...
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How am I supposed to track to KOSAX on the OLIVI 4W out of EDFM?

The SID chart for Mannheim, Germany (EDFM) runway 27 has segments to OLIVI are not defined in terms of any navigational aids but simply specify a track. How am I supposed to fly these accurately? And ...
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How are “expect” altitudes on STARs used?

STAR charts often have expected altitudes. For example: This is, of course, different from mandatory crossing altitudes, and it seems a STAR with only expected altitudes would be insufficient for ATC ...
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What is a “Descend Via” clearance?

When flying to Teterboro, NJ (KTEB) and cleared via the JAIKE THREE ARRIVAL from Flat Rock (FAK): What does ATC expect when they give a clearance like: N1234, Descend VIA the JAIKE THREE ARRIVAL ...
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Is FAA approval required in order to fly an RNAV SID/STAR for a private aircraft operated under FAR Part 91?

I know that under FAR Part 135, specific approval is required for an RNAV SID/STAR (given via an OpSpec), but what about Part 91? Does the aircraft/pilot have to be approved, and if so how is the ...