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Non-precision approaches are instrument approach procedures (IAPs) that do not include vertical guidance.

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In Jeppesen Approach charts, what does D2.8, D3.8 mean?

In Jeppesen Approach chart for VABB VOR RWY 32, what does D2.8 (BBB VOR), the MDA is lower at 650ft. when at D3.8 (BBB VOR), the MDA is higher at 780ft. How to decide which DME should be taken before ...
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Timing not authorized for defining the MAPt

Does anyone know why some charts have written "Timing not authorized for defining the MAPt"? Could this happen when the DME required is written on the chart? Thank you,
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In what situations can LNAV/VNAV minima be higher than LNAV minima, such as RNP Approach to Runway 16 in Corfu?

I recently flew the RNP approach for runway 16 into Corfu. While reviewing the approach charts, I noticed something unusual. The LNAV/VNAV minima is set higher than the LNAV minima for this particular ...
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Why are there altitude differences on the Jeppesen ESB Ankara VOR chart?

What is the reason for the 10 feet difference between ESB dme altitude and profile view? Thanks.
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A320 When to arm approach on RNAV or LNAV

Looking for answers on real/sim behavior on A320 Managed/Managed non-ILS (2D or 3D) approaches. Airbus says to only press the APPR arm button when on the final leg with the Final App Fix as the "...
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How can a pilot fly a descent angle of 4° in an A320?

Would any A320 pilot be able to share any tips regarding maintaining a descent rate for final approach of 4°? Of course this is in case of manual flying. I know we can use a descent rate of speed*5 ...
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LFLL LSE VOR 35L Visual Approach

Was wondering whether someone could help me understand how to perform a visual approach (not using the VOR) specifically if I look at RWY 35L at LFLL. Airport elevation is 821 ft. It's a 3° GS ...
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Why are the height values different although the altitude values in the "straight-in approach" and "circling" minimums are the same?

Why are the height values different although the altitude values in the "straight-in approach" and "circling" minimums are the same? For Adana airport, the minimum altitudes of the ...
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What is the dots before Missed App Point on the Jeppesen VOR Chart?

What is the dots before Missed App Point on the Jeppesen VOR Chart ? and also why the pull up vector before the missed approach point ? Thanks.
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Why did autopilot switch to CWS P on a LNAV/VNAV approach, and why didn't it reduce descent rate to comply with CDU alts when VNAV was re-engaged?

We were performing an NDB approach the other day due to the ILS being unserviceable. We are flying a 737-800, FMC Update 14.0 (“common VNAV”) We were using LNAV and VNAV as our roll and pitch modes ...
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Can you fly a VFR practice approach at night that is Notam’ed “NA at night”?

To frame the question more specifically, at KCSV the ILS Z 26 approach is NOTAMed “NA at night”. So is it legal to fly the approach VFR for training purposes to satisfy aeronautical experience ...
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What is the difference between CANPA and CDFA?

What is the difference between Constant Angle Non-Precision Approach (CANPA) and continuous descent final approach (CDFA)?
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Can a Continuous Descent Final Approach (CDFA) be carried out if there is no final approach fix?

Is it possible to carry out a CDFA approach if there is no defined final approach fix mentioned on the instrument approach chart?
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Crossing mid-field on a circling approach

During a circling approach, can I cross midfield to enter the pattern or do I have to literally fly around the airfield to get into the pattern? I know its an odd question, but my airfield has an RP ...
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Why don't the Altitude-DME values in the approach profile match the Groundspeed-FPM values in the conversion table?

Why don't the Altitude-DME values in the approach profile match the Groundspeed-FPM values in the conversion table? When the calculation is made with the values given in the conversion table, the ...
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What are "CIRCLING CATS"?

A NOTAM at Pensacola International Airport (KPNS) uses the phrase "CIRCLING CATS". What does this phrase mean?
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Why is there no final approach fix symbol on some of the Jeppesen VOR charts? (Maltese Cross Symbol)

Why is there no final approach fix symbol on some of the Jeppesen VOR charts? (Maltese Cross Symbol) What does the box marked with a red arrow mean when there is no FAF symbol and how is it defined? ...
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Why are there no straight-in landing minimums (only circle-to-land) for this VOR approach at Adana?

When we examine the "VOR A" Jeppesen chart on LTAF airport page 23-4, we see that there are only circle-to-land minimums in the minimums section. When I researched the reasons for using ...
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Why is there no Maltese Cross in this non-precision approach's profile view which has a FAF?

I am wondering why this chart does not show the FAF with a maltese cross as it is used in non-precision approaches to depict FAF.
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Why was Air India flight 101 in 2018 cleared for the ILS at EWR?

On Sep. 11, 2018, Air India Flight 101 was flying from Delhi to JFK. On approach they had multiple failures including two of the radar altimeters and the localizer receiver. They decided to do an LNAV/...
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Where can I find details about necessary system accuracy, integrity etc of a conventional navigation aid?

I am wondering where (probably in which ICAO document) can I find information about the required accuracy, integrity etc. for a conventional navigation aid for non-precision and precision approaches (...
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Why is this Instrument Approach NA for certain radials, yet it depicts a feeder route for those radials?

The RNAV (GPS) 28 at Tampa Intl (KTPA) says Procedure NA for arrivals on PIE VORTAC radials 356 CW 157 That seems to mean the approach is not available for anyone generally northeast of the PIE ...
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Can Instrument Approaches be carried out when RVR is not given for the full runway length? (Approach Ban)

Bristol Airport (EGGD) has the following NOTAM in place: INSTRUMENTED RVR RWY 27 STOPEND OUT OF SERVICE Would aircraft be allowed to continue approaches into Bristol? If so, would the touchdown and ...
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In the B737, does an IAN NPA require that the G/P is 3° or can the G/P angle vary?

For an IAN Approach to be recognized and work in a Boeing 737, does the Approach G/P need to be exactly 3° or can it vary?
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Is this an accurate method to showing how the correct Decision Altitude/Height for an approach has been determined?

Here's my method of summarising how the decision altitude/height for an approach was determined: ...
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When not cleared straight in for a VOR approach, how is this type of procedure executed?

You are flying to the GDM VOR on a 097 heading. The ATC clears you for the approach, but does not specify straight in. The procedure turn is marked by the barb and specifies remaining within 10nm. My ...
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What is the difference between ILS and VOR/DME?

I have wondered many times about the difference between VOR/DME and ILS and which one is better for carrying out approaches. Why do pilots use VOR/DME when the ILS is a better option because it is ...
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What if you approach the VOR station such that your turn OB is not on the holding side?

I'm reviewing the Sporty's ground school for VOR approaches, and their example shows the approach to the VOR station then heading OB as tracking on the holding side. What if you approach the VOR ...
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Why is there no Maltese Cross in this non-precision approach chart which has a FAF?

I am wondering why this chart does not show the FAF with a maltese cross as it is used in non-precision approaches to depict FAF. The chart’s briefing strip refers to D6.0 as the FAF and on the plan ...
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Does the A320's FMC automatically adjust the rate of descent on a non-precision approach?

Does the A320's FMC automatically adjust the rate of descent on a non-precision approach? Like a back course approach for example if the distance to altitude is (or can be) programmed in?
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How can I find examples of airports with specific approach types?

Can you guys help me find airports with these approaches: An airport with only an LNAV mins (so no LNAV/VNAV or anything other than just LNAV) One with an LPV lower than 200 feet One with an ASR ...
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How to determine when a non precision approach does or doesn't have a Final Approach Fix (FAF)?

I am curious to know how to know for sure whether a non precision approach has/doesn't have a final approach fix by looking at its plate. From what I can see, a Break Cloud and/or NDB procedure might ...
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How is the FPA (flight-path-angle) computed?

How is FPA computed by the Auto-pilot to follow the desired FPA? One part is clearly VS, is the other part IAS or Ground speed? Where does Ground speed come from?
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Descending while turning inbound on a non-precision approach

I'm writing my instrument rating examination soon and one of the questions that I came across was: While executing a VOR A RWY 01 approach for Alexander bay, 2700ft is reached at 8DME on the ...
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According to ICAO, which rules are applicable to SBAS Non-Precision Approach Procedures?

I am studying the Satellite Based Augmentation System (SBAS) from PANS OPS manual 8168, Volume II, sixth edition, and I have a problem concerning the criteria of SBAS-NPA. In Part III, Section 3, ...
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How to interpret/use "Fix Minimums" (at KALB)

This one stumped both myself and my CFI. Im specifically asking about the minimums at KALB IL/LOC 19 but a general answer is also appreciated. The plate lists two distinct sets of minimums and we ...
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When to turn during missed approach when MAP not identifyable

Not a duplicate of When to go missed on a non-precision approach? please read carefully before duplicating this contains some subtle points. Reposting after clarifications that emphasise this is a ...
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When do I execute a missed approach on a LOC approach when I can't identify the MAP?

According to AIM 5.4.21(b): When an early missed approach is executed [...] fly the IAP as specified on the approach plate to the MAP at or above the MDA or DH before executing a turning ...
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What are the specific side step minimums for an approach?

This question piques my curiosity a bit on this subject. In regards to circling approaches the AIM 5-4-19 states that a. ATC may authorize a standard instrument approach procedure which serves ...
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What is the maximum rate of descent in an instrument approach?

What is the maximum rate of descent approved in an instrument approach procedure non-precision? Basically what is the maximum rate of descent (Fpm) that I use during the approach?
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What's a stepdown fix in a non-precision approach procedure?

Could someone explain to me what's a stepdown fix in non-precision approaches?
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Does having lead-in lights in sight allow descent below MDA?

Does having lead-in lights in-site during an approach that includes them allow for a pilot to descend to 100 feet above the touchdown zone elevation? 14 CFR 91.175 allows a pilot to make such a ...
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Was it ever possible to land big commercial jets from the missed approach point during non-precision approach?

When you shoot a non-precision approach, you are expected to maintain the MDA until the missed approach point, and if you have the runway in sight before you get there, you may proceed to land on the ...
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Approach plate does not require DME, but DME used in the published missed?

This approach plate doesn't say "DME REQUIRED", but the published missed approach uses DME. Can I still fly it without DME equipment? If this approach didn't say "RADAR REQUIRED", could you fly it ...
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Does a Tower controller need to see an aircraft on final to give landing clearance?

If there is an IFR aircraft on approach that has already received an approach clearance, and he reports being at the final approach fix but the controller does not have him in sight yet, can the ...
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How to fly LOC approach when IAF is a specific DME from LOC, but LOC has no DME?

I was looking at this approach plate and noticed that SNOWL is an initial approach fix, and that it's charted to be 6.4 NM from the localizer ...
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When to go missed on a non-precision approach?

I am training to get my instrument rating and I have come across a confusing point. I understand that, when flying a precision approach, you go missed upon reaching the decision height for that ...
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What does this A320 FCTM quote about cold weather and non-precision approaches mean? [closed]

Can someone explain this paragraph from the A320 FCTM about minimum temperatures for non-precision approaches? I can't understand it. COLD WEATHER OPERATIONS For all Non Precision Approaches, there ...
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Were there ever instrument approach procedures utilizing only Four Course Range Navigation?

Looking for information on 4 Course Range instrument approach procedures. I am aware of their navigational use as we developed the airway system, but were they ever used for final approach segment ...
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Why is an approach that relies on both LOC and PAPI not considered a precision approach?

I am an aviation layman. I am reading about PAPI lighting system and it seems like it provides vertical guidance, just like the glideslope component of an ILS. Coupled with a LOC, both vertical and ...
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