When I am receiving flight instruction from a military flight instructor in a military aircraft and I am not a military pilot (just have a private pilot certificate) and the instructor endorses my logbook to show training given is that allowed? Is this allowed per 61.41 sine the instructor is in a program designed to train pilots?
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$\begingroup$ @757toga, I would tend to agree, but I had already drafted an answer that addresses the shortcomings in the question. $\endgroup$– Michael HallDec 31, 2022 at 17:47
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$\begingroup$ @757toga, 61.41 is beneficial for those who may not complete military flight training and be properly designated. In such a case you can still apply the hours towards FAA ratings, the difference is you would need to pass a checkride with a DPE vs taking the written MilComp exam. $\endgroup$– Michael HallDec 31, 2022 at 22:11
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$\begingroup$ The military flight instructors are in a program specifically designated to train pilots. The regulation states that the instructor has to be in the program. It doesn’t say anything about the student. Can I have military instructors endorse my logbook showing training given when I flying a military aircraft and I’m not a military pilot, I just have a PPC $\endgroup$– JamesJan 1 at 1:46
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$\begingroup$ I am in the military. $\endgroup$– JamesJan 1 at 4:32
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$\begingroup$ James, I'm not an English major to be able to break down the sentence in the regs, but it certainly does not exclude the student from the requirement to be a part of the same training program as the instructor. Because if you remove the phrase about the instructor, (prepositional phrase?) it still makes sense grammatically: "A person may credit flight training toward the requirements of a pilot certificate or rating issued under this part if that person received the training in a program for training military pilots..." And it would seem apparent that is the intent. $\endgroup$– Michael HallJan 1 at 18:04
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As you are aware, 61.41 allows you log military training but only as long as you are "in a program".
(a) A person may credit flight training toward the requirements of a pilot certificate or rating issued under this part, if that person received the training from:
(1) A flight instructor of an Armed Force in a program for training military pilots of either the United States or...
Whether or not your military flight instructors have FAA Flight Instructor Certificates is irrelevant as long as they are qualified by the military to teach you in the aircraft that you are flying, AND you are in a program for training military pilots.
If your friends are not FAA CFIs then they cannot give flight instruction in general aviation aircraft outside the military.
If they are, then they can.
It's really that simple, but you cannot randomly mix and match military and FAA flight instructor qualifications as your question seems to suggest.
answered Dec 31, 2022 at 17:32