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In 2010 nearly all newspaper reported on the new invention of the company Aviointeriors. They created new airplane seats called "SkyRider" which you can "stand" in. This should increase Airlines profitability. I'm not a big fan of the SkyRider seats but who can I thank, or why don't we see them in Action? BeforeAfter skyrider, real

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    $\begingroup$ Because they are awful, horrible things spawned by the minions of hades. Or the airlines, not sure which is worse. $\endgroup$ – GdD Nov 11 '14 at 15:16
  • $\begingroup$ If they really wanted to lay people flat they should just give everyone their own little bed. We'd all be more comfy and they could fit more people in. $\endgroup$ – Jay Carr Nov 11 '14 at 15:31
  • $\begingroup$ Was the announcement by any chance on April 1? It's hard to imagine that's a serious proposal. $\endgroup$ – Andrew Medico Nov 11 '14 at 17:13
  • $\begingroup$ @JayCarr Skyrider only counts as lying flat if the plane is in a vertical climb. $\endgroup$ – David Richerby Nov 11 '14 at 17:20
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    $\begingroup$ @DavidRicherby Well, yes, that would, I'm saying they could put beds in planes and possible pack more people in as a result. Just go with 3 high bunks, it'd be fun! ...or woefully impractical, take your pick. $\endgroup$ – Jay Carr Nov 11 '14 at 17:46
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There are a lot of disadvantages, even if the possibility of lowering costs and increasing profits is a huge advantage for the airlines. This article discussed several issues from a passenger perspective:

  • Limited space in general (e.g. to use a laptop)
  • Face too close to the video screen in front of you (if there is one)
  • Doesn't fit tall, large, short or young people well (and I guess that older people might not be strong enough to use it)
  • Very limited space for carry-on luggage (because you lose space both under the seats and in the overhead bins)
  • Passenger resistance to the basic idea

The author's conclusion was that the seat isn't actually uncomfortable, just cramped, but he was very sceptical that passengers would be willing to use it.

Another article added some concerns from the airlines' point of view:

  • Could make cabin evacuations more difficult (and certification costs in general would be high for a completely new seating concept)
  • Difficult to market successfully
  • The manufacturer intended the seats to be used in a new budget fare class, not to replace current economy class seats (this adds more complexity to everything: aircraft layout and maintenance, marketing, booking systems etc.)

Both articles (and others) concluded that there's no fundamental technical or regulatory barrier to introducing them, the main problem would be convincing passengers to accept them. Even Ryanair - which is notorious for cutting costs wherever possible - rejected them although Wikipedia says that both Ryanair and Airbus have proposed an alternative but very similar concept in the past.

If the airlines really wanted to introduce this seating arrangement, I would expect them to keep the idea in the news as much as possible and generally work on convincing people that the seats are comfortable and it's a great way for them to get even cheaper tickets. Since they haven't done that (if they have, I haven't noticed) it seems unlikely that the airlines are actively working on them.

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  • $\begingroup$ Well, you use the overhead lockers completely, because you need at least 2.10 meters height for such a seat, while now there's surely less than 1.70 under the lockers since I'm far away from being able to stand there. $\endgroup$ – yo' Nov 12 '14 at 21:03
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There are 2 major problems with skyriders

  1. They need to be certified, just designing and showcasing them isn't enough to allow you to actually put them in planes. All that media buzz was to round up investors to get them through the certification process and get ready for mass production.

  2. They are not one size fits all, as your second pic shows; overweight passengers will have trouble using the seats, same with children.

Then there is the "bad press" that got around. They would turn economy class even more into the sardine can than it is now.

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    $\begingroup$ These are both important problems, but I think the most important problem is that everyone would hate them. It would have to be a really, really short flight and a really, really cheap ticket for most people to consider purchasing such a seat. Even introducing them as a separate class would likely harm an airline's reputation with customers. $\endgroup$ – reirab Nov 11 '14 at 20:11
  • $\begingroup$ getting them on buses first would help to make people adjust to them $\endgroup$ – ratchet freak Nov 11 '14 at 20:15
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    $\begingroup$ @ratchetfreak Most commercial flights involve being in the plane for at least an hour. Most bus journeys involve being in the bus for much less than an hour. $\endgroup$ – David Richerby Nov 12 '14 at 21:33

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