# What is the lift to drag ratio of a human being?

If a person falls at terminal velocity, and tries to steer himself with his limbs, what is the maximum lift to drag ratio he can achieve, and what position would that be in?

• Guys, there's no need to add words before "lift to drag ratio". Not anymore than there is when asking about an actual aircraft Commented Oct 6, 2022 at 12:19
• Even in case of an actual aircraft, say a glider, it is arguably more correct to say that the best L/D ratio or maximum L/D ratio is (say) 40/1, rather than simply to say that the "L/D ratio" is 40/1. That's the whole point of the "polar curve" graph, to show how L/D continually varies with airspeed (angle-of-attack). I didn't edit your question (title), and maybe it's a bit overstepping the norm to make an edit along these lines, but technically speaking the edit did make the (title) more correct. Commented Oct 6, 2022 at 13:02

I'm an ex skydiver. It's a position known in skydiving as a "Flat Track", and is more or less the same configuration as a ski jumper takes. Legs together (ideally), bent forward at the hips slightly or flat, arms at the sides, palms flat. You're trying to turn your body into a "lifting body" type aircraft.

In skydiving videos, it's the position you see jumpers taking to get away from each other when it's time to deploy their parachutes and they need to cover a lot of ground. There is another position called a "Delta Track" where you keep your legs apart and relaxed. Horizontal speed is about half of a flat track.

The horizontal velocity achievable while flat tracking is about 60 mph (making it quite a dangerous maneuver near others if you don't know what you're doing).

With a vertical terminal velocity of about 120 mph, which drops to around 80-90 mph while tracking, this makes the unenhanced human body's L/D while tracking, at 50-60 mph horizontally, at about 0.6/1 to 0.7/1. Adding a Wingsuit improves the L/D to better than 1/1, maybe approaching 2/1.

Everything you wanted to know about tracking here.

• Are you sure glide ratio (or descent gradient) is a direct expression of L/D? Commented Oct 5, 2022 at 13:05
• @Max yes they're exactly equal, see aviation.stackexchange.com/q/80731/4108 Commented Oct 5, 2022 at 13:24
• I wonder how much of that 120mph you could lose if you got the flare just right :) Commented Oct 5, 2022 at 14:38
• Actually I had overlooked that point. The vertical velocity will be less than the normal 120. A wiki article says 90 vertical. I was trained that the horizontal speed approaches 60 to get the idea across how dangerous it can be. So it gives an L/D of .66 not .5. Thanks for the comment. Commented Oct 5, 2022 at 14:49
• @DaveGremlin, not enough. People have made safe landings with just a wingsuit; nobody has safely landed without one.
– Mark
Commented Oct 6, 2022 at 3:38