# Why doesn't critical angle of attack increase with airspeed? [duplicate]

Critical angle of attack is related to the Coefficient of Lift, which is a function of Reynold's number. Reynold's number depends on the speed of the aircraft. So why doesn't the Critical Angle of Attack change with speed?

Update: My current knowledge about this topic comes to this- The Critical Angle of Attack is a constant for an aerofoil at any altitude and speed. CAoA depends upon Reynold's number, which itself relies upon the velocity of the airplane. For the CAoA to be nearly constant, the effect of Reynold's number and the velocity has to be negligible. Is my understanding correct? If so, why is what I mentioned the case?

• @Bianfable I think this question is sufficiently specific that it is worth a more direct answer than that. Peter does mention Reynolds Number once in the answer, but without any explanation of how much effect it has or why we tend to ignore that & talk about "the" stall angle of attack as if it is perfectly constant. If anything, the remark in that answer validates the premise of this question, without really answering it. Voting to leave open.
– Ralph J
Oct 7, 2021 at 15:04
• Seems to be the same question than Does airspeed affect the critical angle of attack on an airfoil?, and the answer is yes, so your premise is false.
– mins
Oct 7, 2021 at 16:25
• @mins, Rafael M. says "My point is valid from this (the pilot's) perspective, where the pilot needs to know that he can stall the plane at any speed or altitude at a specific AoA." That implies that the Critical AoA is the same at all altitudes and speeds. Am I misinterpreting this? This is from the pilot's POV. So, what's the explanation for that? Also, how does "pilot's perspective" differ from "design perspective?" I'm not very well versed. Does it simply imply that it just doesn't matter from a pilot's perspective as it's negligible? That would bring us back to why it's ignored. Oct 7, 2021 at 17:20
• @RalphJ Good call, we received a much more detailed explanation now. Retracting my close vote... Oct 7, 2021 at 21:24

Your scepticism is justified. The critical angle of attack (cAoA) can grow as well as shrink with increasing airspeed. Growth is generally due to a higher Reynolds number while a reduction in the cAoA with increasing speed is a transsonic effect, so it depends on the flight Mach number.

In one peculiar case this already stated to happen at Mach 0.3, far below what is normally considered transsonic.

Frequent readers of my answers know that at this point I turn to Sighard Hoerner's book Fluid Dynamic Lift, and you will not be disappointed this time. In section 4, starting on page 4-12 of the 1985 edition, you will find several plots summarizing lots of test data. Hoerner uses c$$_{lx}$$ to denote the maximum lift coefficient, and although the lift curve slope increases a bit with Reynolds number, this effect is small when compared to the delayed separation happening with higher Reynolds numbers, so his data implicitly shows that cAoA is generally increasing with speed.

Here is Figure 18, the plot for airfoils of 12% relative thickness: The sudden jump at Re = 0.7$$\times$$10⁵ to 0.9$$\times$$10⁵ is caused by earlier transition with higher speed, so a low cAoA caused by laminar separation below that Reynolds number is replaced by an earlier transition and delayed separation of the now turbulent boundary layer beyond that Reynolds number. But this is the realm of small model airplanes.

The highly cambered Joukowsky airfoil goes against the trend and shows a reduction in maximum lift between Re = 10⁵ and 10⁶. The same happens for airfoils with a relative thickness exceeding 20% and is caused by their large nose radius. Hoerner writes:

The airfoil nose-radius ratio is thus an important influence with regard to the critical Reynolds number of the section, figure 17. Note that the sections with the smallest curvature tend to have the highest critical Reynolds numbers for the strong increase
of c$$_{lx}$$.

Those are the ones at the bottom of the group.

If the lift curve slope of a 2D section is 2π, the increase in c$$_{lx}$$ between Re = 10⁶ and 10⁸ from 1.2 to 1.9 is equivalent to a typical increase in the cAoA of more than 6°. Subtract one degree for the increased lift curve slope and you still have a change of 5° when a typical cAoA at Re = 10⁶ in 2D flow is 12°. In reality, such a range of Reynolds numbers would mean a speed ratio between slow and high flight speed of 100. More realistic ratios are 4, so the change in cAoA over the typical speed range is rather small.

Now to the influence of the flight Mach number:

Again, Figure 27 is one of a group which plots c$$_{lx}$$ over Mach, see below. NACA 64-210 shows a dramatic drop above Mach 0.2, so why would I blame this on transsonic effects? Thin airfoils with small nose radii show very steep suction peaks at the nose close to stall, so here the local Mach number becomes indeed supersonic while the flight Mach number would make you neglect compressibility effects. Hoerner writes:

On the first tenth of the chord on blunt airfoils, standing shock waves are formed similar to the more well known shocks on the aft section of the airfoil, except their size is an order of magnitude less. The familiar lambda type shock with a weak forward shock and pressure plateau as illustrated in figure 26 is formed with a laminar boundary layer. With a turbulent boundary layer, the single shock with a strong pressure rise and an expanding bubble is formed at the nose (25,b). These shock waves interact with the boundary layer, causing separation and a reduction of c$$_{lx}$$ as illustrated in figure (27).

Now the change in cAoA, given the right airfoil, can be rather dramatic over the realistic speed range of a fast airplane, so it should not be neglected.

And last, the peculiar case hinted at above: I once worked on a jet trainer which I predicted to have a maximum lift coefficient in clean configuration of 1.28. Flight testing later revealed that it could achieve a maximum lift coefficient of 1.35 near the ground but only 1.26 at 4000 m. The drop in air temperature between ground and 4000 m would shift the Mach number up and cause shock waves at the nose which were not present (or less pronounced) near the ground.

• "The critical AOA is an aerodynamic constant for a given airfoil in a given configuration. The velocity of the relative wind does not matter; the airfoil will ALWAYS stall when the critical AOA is reached." - FAA guide. Could you please explain this statement? Oct 8, 2021 at 4:48
• @AlphaRouge it seems to be undergraduate "kindergarten" vs doctorate level understanding. The bottom line seems to be: Reynolds number will not change enough within the flight envelope of a given aircraft. Keep in mind this envelope does not start at 0, every heavier than air craft has a minimum flying speed. In the case of the 172, that's around 50 knots, with Vne around 3x more. Oct 8, 2021 at 7:02

Yes

One way to gain greater understanding is to go to airfoil tools and observe the lift vs AoA of your favorite airfoil (try the Clark Y for starters) and you will see that Reynolds number effects generally occur across several orders of magnitude, well outside the speed envelope of your aircraft.

A bit like saying from 0 to Vne would be a few centimeters on a 1 meter Reynolds scale. Reynolds number is linearly proportional to V (not V$$^2$$), so only great Velocity meters/second (and chord in meters) changes will make a noticeable difference.

Reynolds Number = Velocity × Chord/1.48 × 10$$^-5$$

Reynolds number, and therefor stall AoA, can be considered approximately the same within a given aircraft flight envelope (recreational, low subsonic), with manuvering effects (G loading in turns) being much more critical.

• Is Yes an adequate answer to a why-question? Oct 7, 2021 at 19:37
• Only if it's obvious. Oct 7, 2021 at 19:48
• I think the short answer is mostly sufficient as well. Certainly no reason to downvote in the slightest, just because a more thorough answer apoears later. But for aerospace the kinematic viscisity cannot be assumed to be constant at en exact value of 1.48e-5. Either the exact value is not too relevant and we just use a symbol, or the exact value is relevant, but then the temperature dependence will come up as well. Oct 8, 2021 at 6:07
• @VladimirF noting from the Joukowsky airfoil data above one might notice the relationship to curvature and camber to airspeed. With a heavily curved wing at higher V, it seems Clift breaks down a bit due to earlier onset of flow separation, which seems to be a mass and viscosity issue. So, rerunning the data plot in say CO2 (like Mars) would be interesting. Oct 8, 2021 at 7:12