737NG AFM says :

The use of VNAV or LNAV with QFE selected is prohibited.

But what's the reason of this limitation?

  • $\begingroup$ For VNAV it seems obvious—it uses baro altimeter and assumes QNH (and STD above transition). But I don't know why it would affect LNAV. $\endgroup$
    – Jan Hudec
    Commented Aug 2, 2021 at 5:46

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When you set your altimeter to the airport or runway QFE value, the altimeter shows your altitude above the airport or runway threshold:

(source: SKYbrary - Altimeter Pressure Settings)

The altitude limitations on an instrument approach are however specified in altitude above mean sea level (AMSL), which requires setting QNH. When setting QFE you are unable to follow the altitude limitations.

Since you tagged , I guess you are asking about the different ways of flying an RNP approach. This is an example of 3 different minima for an RNP approach:

EDDB RNP RWY 07L minima
(minima for the RNP RWY 07L approach at EDDB, Jeppesen)

You can fly this approach in 3 ways:

  • LNAV: You get lateral guidance from GPS and no vertical guidance. You would start a 3° descent from ODIDO by looking at your ground speed and dialing in the vertical speed from the table:

    EDDB RNP RWY 07L vertical profile
    (vertical profile for the RNP RWY 07L approach at EDDB, Jeppesen)

    This is not possible with QFE because you cannot know if you are at 4000 ft AMSL at ODIDO. You also cannot cross check your altitude of 1160 ft AMSL at 3.0 NM to RW07L.

  • LNAV/VNAV: You get lateral guidance from GPS and vertical guidance is provided by the Baro-VNAV system. This system required the altitude to be in AMSL to provide correct guidance, which is not possible with QFE.

    The chart further says:

    Baro-VNAV operations not authorized below -15°C.

    This is because even with correct QNH set, the altimeter is still not showing true altitude AMSL due to temperature effects. Colder temperatures mean you are actually lower than indicated, which could potentially be dangerous.

  • LPV: You get lateral and vertical guidance from GPS using corrections from an SBAS. In this example, the correction signal is coming from EGNOS. Since the vertical guidance is now unrelated to the altimeter, this type of RNP approach can be flown with QFE set.

  • $\begingroup$ Awesome. And I saw a saying "FMS database uses barometric as standard and LNAV is linked with turning radius ", not sure whether it's true. $\endgroup$
    – cwcauc
    Commented Aug 2, 2021 at 8:41
  • $\begingroup$ The second case is obvious—all approaches in the database are referenced to altitude AMSL, so that's what you have to use. But for LNAV and flying the altitudes by hand, in countries where flying QFE is common, are there really no approaches encoded in altitudes AFE? $\endgroup$
    – Jan Hudec
    Commented Aug 2, 2021 at 11:39
  • $\begingroup$ @JanHudec I have never seen it, but it may exist somewhere. This answer says that RAF Northolt is still using QFE, but my Jeppesen approach charts for EGWU all say "Procedure flown with QNH. QFE available by exception.". $\endgroup$
    – Bianfable
    Commented Aug 2, 2021 at 11:49

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