A bit of digging into the 7Z9363 accident investigation has brought up some interesting information regarding the DC-9-80 ("MD-80")'s flap system:

Flaps may be positioned in any of the six permanent detents in a 0 to 40-degree range by movement of the Flap/Slat Handle. The authorized flap settings for takeoff in the MD-83 were 4, 6, 11, 15, 17, 20, and 24.73 A “Flap T.O. Sel Wheel” on the center pedestal would allow the pilot to further position the flaps from the position selected by the Flap/Slat Handle position anywhere in the 0- to 13- and 15- to 24-degree range.74 This was used to set the final takeoff flap setting, as determined by the runway analysis review for the airport/runway.



74The Ameristar Air Cargo MD-83 COM, Limitations, page 1-24, stated “Flaps (AFM): Do not use flap settings between 13 and 15 degrees.” [Operations Group Chairman's Factual Report, NTSB docket DCA17FA076, page 32, my emphasis.]

and Flaps System Description

The aircraft has an inboard and an outboard flap on each wing. The flaps are mechanically controlled and hydraulically actuated. The crew moves the flap lever to the appropriate detent depending on the flight condition (i.e. take-off, landing). The flap lever has fixed detents at UP, 0, 11, 15, 28, and 40. The lever can also be positioned in one-degree increments for takeoff settings using the Dial-A-Flap from 0 to 24, except for a small do-not-use range at 14. Through a series of cables and pulleys, control valves are exercised and provide hydraulic pressure to the flap actuators to extend or retract the flaps. [Systems Group Chairman's Factual Report, NTSB docket DCA17FA076, page 59, section headings bolded in original, other emphasis mine.]

Reinforcing this prohibition, the DC-9-80's takeoff-flap selector wheel has a yellow "DO NOT USE" label covering the space between the 13-degree and 15-degree markings:

thou shalt not use between 13 and 15 degrees of flaps

(Image originally by the National Transportation Safety Board [it's on page 32];1 cropped and red-ovalled by me.)

Why does the DC-9-80's flap system come with a prohibition against using flap settings between 13 and 15 degrees for takeoff?

1: The underlying photograph was taken by NTSB personnel, and the red arrow was added by the NTSB to point out the selector wheel in question.


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When the FLAP/SLAT handle is in the 0° to 13° range, the slats are in the mid-sealed position. The slats will be in the extended position whenever the FLAP/SLAT is in the 15° to 40° range. The range between 13° and 15° is the DO NOT USE range.[1]

Given the above and the analogue nature of the input (dial-a-flap), between 13 and 15° the slats are very likely not to settle on a position.

(...) with the flaps flap/slat control lever in the cockpit below flaps 14°, the slats extend to their intermediate position (MID); and with flap/slat control lever positions above flaps 14°, the slats are fully extended (EXT).[2]

In other words:

$$0° \le \text{slat}_1 \lt 14°$$ $$14° \lt \text{slat}_2$$

What happens at 14°? Simply "Do Not Use". The slat is both alive and dead.

Chronology of Douglas / McDonnell Douglas flaps/slats for context:

EIS Year Plane T.O. Flaps Slats
1959 DC-8 fixed detents slots (with an O);[a] doors opened when flaps extended
1965 DC-9-10 fixed detents no slats
1967 Rest of the Original DC-9 Family fixed detents manual slats; separate lever
1971 DC-10 dial-a-flap (patent) manual slats; separate lever
1980 MD-80 dial-a-flap automatic flap-based three-position[b] slats (leading to the switch point at 14°)
1990 MD-11 dial-a-flap automatic slats having only one extension position; slats stow button
1995 MD-90 dial-a-flap same as MD-80
1999 717 (MD-95) dial-a-flap automatic slats having only one extension position

a: the DC-8 slots failed to produce the desired pitch-down on the DC-9 during development; tests revealed it was due to the lack of engine pylons; further experiments led to the invention of mini-pylons – the vortilons[4]
b: counting the retracted position

How can the narrow-body MD-80 be compared to the much larger tri-jet MD-11? The underlying high-lift system is practically unchanged since the 60s:

The DC-10 models utilize the DC-9 high-lift technology, and the MD-11, being a derivative of the DC-10, is very similar to it. (...) All its airplanes today, the MD-80s, MD-90s, and MD-11s are derivatives of the DC-9 and DC-10 airplanes, and they use their almost-30-year-old high-lift system technology with few changes.[3]

1: MD-80 FCOM
2: Report A-032/2008 – Accident involving a McDonnell Douglas DC-9-82 (MD-82) aircraft
3: Peter, K. C. "High-Lift systems on commercial subsonic airliners." NASA Contractor Rept 4746 (1996).
4: Shevell, Richard S. "Aerodynamic anomalies-Can CFD prevent or correct them?." Journal of Aircraft 23.8 (1986): 641-649.

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    $\begingroup$ So it's just because they couldn't get the dial to settle on 14° so they just said "don't do it"? $\endgroup$
    – BruceWayne
    Feb 15, 2021 at 20:14
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    $\begingroup$ @Sean: Re MD-11: addressed in body. $\endgroup$
    – user14897
    Feb 16, 2021 at 0:40
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    $\begingroup$ @Sean: and done ;) $\endgroup$
    – user14897
    Feb 19, 2021 at 0:57
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    $\begingroup$ @Vikki-formerlySean: Not at all, I'll try to find literature on the DC-8. $\endgroup$
    – user14897
    Mar 1, 2021 at 13:57
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    $\begingroup$ @Vikki-formerlySean: most interesting; done / note that the NASA contractor report gets the DC-8 and MD-11 wrong when it comes to the LE devices in the summary table. $\endgroup$
    – user14897
    Mar 2, 2021 at 15:29

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