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In Sporty’s training, the following question came:

One way to determine that you are maintaining a constant attitude is to occasionally check:
A. The vertical speed indicator
B. The tachometer
C. The altimeter

My answer is A, but sporty’s app says I’m wrong and correct answer is C.

Could someone please confirm the right answer and explain why?

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    $\begingroup$ What a strange question. One can fly at a constant attitude for a wide range of altitude and airspeed. Scanning any of these instruments alone will tell you nothing. $\endgroup$
    – Sanchises
    Nov 9, 2020 at 15:50
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    $\begingroup$ @Sanchises, and an equally strange comment... They definitely don’t tell you nothing: Each instrument tells you something, and scanning them all provides the big picture. $\endgroup$ Nov 9, 2020 at 16:33
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    $\begingroup$ @Michael Hall: But that big picture doesn't include the ATTITUDE of the plane. I strongly suspect a misspelling here. $\endgroup$
    – jamesqf
    Nov 9, 2020 at 16:51
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    $\begingroup$ @Michael Which is why I said "alone". I never claimed that instrument scans are useless. Just that you can't derive your attitude from looking at just your altimeter. The "correct" answer to this question might lead you to conclude that pitch determines climb rate, which is emphatically false. $\endgroup$
    – Sanchises
    Nov 9, 2020 at 18:07
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    $\begingroup$ @Michael Always be careful when stating absolutes :) $\endgroup$
    – Sanchises
    Nov 9, 2020 at 18:30

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Multiple choice questions are rarely about picking the only correct answer but instead often challenge you to pick the most correct answer out of a choice of 2 or more potentially correct answers.

I think that is the case here. While the VSI may well indicate to you that you are climbing or descending, it is unreliable for monitoring as it will be affected by small fluctuations such as up/downdrafts and lags quite a bit behind actual control input.

The altimeter, on the other hand, is quite stable and does not fluctuate quite so readily. If you're scanning and over a period of a minute your altitude has increased by 100 ft you can be pretty sure you're climbing - in that time the VSI may have indicated a climb, a descent and another climb etc. If you had scanned it while in a short-lived descent you might be fooled into thinking the long term affect was a descent. It was not - you were climbing overall.

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    $\begingroup$ But the question asks about ATTitude, not ALTitude. I can readily maintain constant altitude and rate of climb while having the plane in much different attitudes, as for instance when practicing flight at the edge of stall. $\endgroup$
    – jamesqf
    Nov 9, 2020 at 16:54
  • $\begingroup$ @jamesqf right, but given you're stabilized at a particular attitude/speed config you know you're maintaining that attitude by the lack of change of altitude (assuming speed remains constant) $\endgroup$
    – Jamiec
    Nov 9, 2020 at 17:28
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    $\begingroup$ @jamesqf, if you have practiced flight at the edge of stall then perhaps you have also practiced partial panel under the hood? If not, you should... it would clarify what Jamiec is saying. $\endgroup$ Nov 9, 2020 at 17:57
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    $\begingroup$ @Jamiec, isn’t it possible to have a constant aTTitude while climbing? In which case altimeter will be continuously turning and it will be hard to judge if it’s turning at a constant rate. In the same situation, the VSI needle will likely be stationary and pointing to the rate of climb. Does this make sense? $\endgroup$
    – bluephoton
    Nov 9, 2020 at 20:39
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    $\begingroup$ @bluephoton -- the original question was undoubtedly intended to only apply to the case where the pilot's intention was horizontal flight. As to why it didn't actually say that-- well, you may have guessed that my opinion of this sort of multiple-choice question is rather low anyway, so nothing surprises me here. Certainly there's wiggle room to point out this discrepancy in a well-crafted answer. $\endgroup$ Nov 10, 2020 at 1:37
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It looks like the Sporty's material is in line with the FAA's Instrument Flying Handbook. Chapter 7 describes basic maneuvers using analog instruments and it describes the attitude indicator as giving a "direct indication of pitch attitude", while the altimeter gives an indirect one (p. 7-3):

At constant power, any deviation from level flight (except in turbulent air) is the result of a pitch change. Therefore, the altimeter gives an indirect indication of the pitch attitude in level flight, assuming constant power. Since the altitude should remain constant when the airplane is in level flight, any deviation from the desired altitude signals the need for a pitch change.

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  • $\begingroup$ Exactly. That is where I originally got my concept and understanding of Primary & Secondary flight instruments. Though, my understanding was that the FAA recently decided to remove that method from testing in favor of the Control & Performance method. Although, I fly by the Control & Performance method, I still find the Primary & Secondary method a helpful tool when practicing partial panel. $\endgroup$
    – Dean F.
    Nov 9, 2020 at 17:56
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    $\begingroup$ Phew, this backs up what I felt I just knew from training. I was beginning to wonder if I was wrong. $\endgroup$
    – Jamiec
    Nov 9, 2020 at 18:01
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The VSI is intentionally designed to present the climb or descent rate averaged over about seven seconds, while the altimeter is designed to have as little lag as possible. Except for in gliders where the altimeter may stick due to the lack of vibration, the altimeter will actually indicate a climb or descent sooner than the vertical speed indicator. However, what you really want to know as a guide to whether you are holding the proper pitch attitude for the power setting, is the vertical speed over the long term, i.e. over a time-scale of a minute or more. Since the change in altitude represents the vertical speed integrated over time, the altimeter is superior to the VSI for this purpose, just as it is superior for indicating the very start of a climb or descent. Plus, in a situation where you are trying to hold a specific cruising altitude, the altimeter has the added benefit of letting you know when you've successfully remediated an unwanted change in altitude, regardless of whether it was caused by an updraft or downdraft, or by a slight error in the pilot's choice of pitch attitude in relation to the power setting.

Of course your primary pitch reference, that you are checking almost constantly, is either the view of the aircraft's nose relative to the horizon, or the attitude indicator. The lack of "attitude indicator" on the list of possible answers suggests that this question was asked in the context of flight in visual meteorological conditions-- or, less plausibly, in the context of "partial panel" flying with no functioning attitude indicator.

Clearly, the original question was only intended to apply to the case where the pilot's goal is to fly horizontally, and he or she is attempting to make the control inputs that are needed to accomplish this, rather than to climb or descend at a constant rate, or execute some other maneuver. Otherwise, the suggested answer is clearly wrong. That's the joy of this sort of multiple-choice question-- often it seems that it was deemed too expensive to expend the amount of ink (or bits) that would be needed to really constrain the problem enough to make the suggested answer actually be the most correct one. Don't sweat it, just "go with the flow" and try to figure out what the take-away lesson is supposed to be.

Here's a bit of "forbidden knowledge"-- trying to maintain an exactly constant altitude over the short term by instantly correcting for every updraft and downdraft is actually less efficient than keeping the airspeed and pitch attitude closer to constant. This is addressed in the last paragraph of this related ASE answer. However, traffic and airspace considerations sometimes make the latter style of flying impractical.

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    $\begingroup$ Will mark this one as an answer as, in addition to explaining points mentioned earlier, it addressed both intentions of level flying and climbing at a constant rate, which was my source of confusion. I'll definitely go with the flow. Lesson I learned here is that passing the FAA test is just the tiny beginning of a long learning journey! As a side note, I emailed Sporty's with a link to this discussion so they can comment or update this question to something more specific...not sure if I'll ever hear from them, but will update if I did. Great information in this thread! $\endgroup$
    – bluephoton
    Nov 10, 2020 at 3:42
  • $\begingroup$ And here is what Sporty's CFI said! I'll let you judge them :) Hello and thank you for your message. This particular review question is specific to the information found at 1:10 on the four fundamentals related to altitude control. It provides various examples of how you can monitor the altimeter to verify the current pitch attitude is set properly to hold an altitude. So the best answer choice in this case per the video training is the C, altimeter. However, yes, the VSI can also be used to verify. Sporty's CFI Support Team $\endgroup$
    – bluephoton
    Nov 12, 2020 at 23:05
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This question sounds like it is a throwback from when the Primary & Secondary method of Basic Attitude Instrument Flight was the preferred method of teaching and testing student pilots instead of the Control & Performance method. This assigned a role of Primary or Supporting to each instrument for each basic maneuver. Student pilots were required to memorize these roles for each instrument and each maneuver.

The Vertical Speed Indicator plays a minor role in Basic Attitude Instrument Flying. The VSI has a lag factor that makes it unsuitable for giving immediate feedback like a Variometer. In the Primary & Secondary method, the VSI is only in the primary role for constant rate climbs and descents. In the Control & Performance method, the VSI is solely a supporting and cross check instrument, only. It is never a primary instrument unless their is an issue with the Attitude Indicator.

Here is a chart for the Primary & Secondary method.

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BASIC ATTITUDE INSTRUMENT FLIGHT

Control and Performance:
(Attitude + Power = Performance)
The Primary instruments for all maneuvers are the Attitude Indicator and the Tachometer/Manifold Pressure Gauge

Primary and Supporting/Secondary:
Any instrument that is not Primary for a maneuver is Supporting.
An Instrument can only be Primary for one aspect of a maneuver.
The Attitude Indicator is the Primary for all changes of, transitioning to, and/or establishing a maneuver except for changing airspeed in a turn.
The Attitude Indicator is the initial Primary Bank for transitioning to or establishing a standard rate turns. Then the Turn Coordinator becomes Primary Bank.
The Tachometer/Manifold Pressure Gauge is the Primary Power for all climbs and constant airspeed/vertical speed descents.
Airspeed Indicator is the Primary Power for all turns, all level flight, straight and level, and the constant rate descent.
The Altimeter is the Primary Pitch for all turns, all level flight, and straight and level flight, and changing airspeed in a turn.
The Heading Indicator is the Primary Bank for all Ascents, all Descents, all straight (without turns), and straight and level flight.
The Primary Power will always be either the Airspeed Indicator or the Tachometer/Manifold Pressure Gauge.
The Tachometer/Manifold Pressure Gauge is the Primary Power or the initial Primary for changing airspeed in a turn. Then the Airspeed Indicator becomes Primary Power.
Solely changing airspeed only is a variation of straight and level flight where airspeed is affected by Power and altitude is affected by Pitch.

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    – nexus_2006
    Nov 10, 2020 at 14:34
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I think it's not a good question because it's not specific enough. According to the answer you a need to check altimeter occasionally to determine your attitude. But that's not the case in other than level flight. You can look at altimeter all you want during climb or descent and it will not give you a slightest clue about how shallow or how deep your nose is. It should be a little more specific.

If the question was about level flight it might be closer to truth. However, I would still discuss that VSI is a better instrument to maintain level flight than altimeter. I see VSI as a moving average trend indicator, if you are into stats a little bit. It will show you the change and the direction of the change in altitude way before the altimeter at level flight. You can see VSI as an error indicator. The second you see it moving in one direction try to minimize the error. Try that and you will see instant improvement in your level flights.

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The question is bunk. You check you attitude with the attitude indicator (and turn coordinator).

Here’s a real-world explanation:

One can maintain a perfectly constant pitch attitude while entering a climb or descent. Alternately, a pilot might need to vary pitch attitude in order to maintain a constant altitude. Your attitude indicator (and turn coordinator) give you attitude information. Those instruments don’t tell you how well you are flying, i.e. maintaining altitude, heading, and airspeed.

Let’s say, for example, you are in the clouds with a perfectly level attitude indicator and you notice your altitude is decreasing. We’ll say it’s caused by a small, steady downdraft. In order to correct the altitude loss, you will need to add pitch and power. Once corrected, a new pitch/power setting will be used to offset the slight downdraft (for however long it lasts).

In level flight, you will always be scanning your altimeter and adjusting with pitch attitude and power - not the other way around! In a climb or descent, it’s the same, however you will add the vertical speed indicator to your scan to verify your rate of climb/descent you desire.

In other words, the purpose of your scan is not to make sure that the airplane’s attitude isn’t changing - and I think that is what the poorly worded question implies. Rather, your scan is there to verify that you are performing your flight correctly (maintaining altitude, heading, airspeed).

Good luck!

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