I am curious to know how to know for sure whether a non precision approach has/doesn't have a final approach fix by looking at its plate. From what I can see, a Break Cloud and/or NDB procedure might not have a FAF, but I am not 100% sure. Can anybody give me an example of a NPA with FAF and NPA without?

These are two examples of NPA plates from South Africa. FAWB Break clod procedure RWY 29


  • $\begingroup$ Although we have NDB IAPs in the USA, they are becoming more and more rare. I know of no Cloud Break approaches. As a matter of fact, I don’t know of any approaches that do not have FAFs. Are these common in other countries? Were there ever any Cloud Break approaches in the US in the past? $\endgroup$ – Dean F. Feb 17 '20 at 14:47
  • $\begingroup$ These are quite common in South Africa. There are some Approaches without FAF's here, but I'm finding it hard to determine which ones they are. $\endgroup$ – Skydemon Feb 18 '20 at 20:53
  • $\begingroup$ Cape Town is in my top five favorite destinations. Post more approaches like this or links to where they can be found when you find them. The closest I can find to these in the US is our Visual Climb Over the Airport. $\endgroup$ – Dean F. Feb 19 '20 at 12:21

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