# Why is thrust available constant with speed for turbojet engines, when it varies with speed for turboprop engines?

Similarly, why is power available (nearly) constant with speed for a propeller engine, while it varies for a jet engine?

• This is a very well presented question. Notice with props the thrust drops with velocity. But this may be a diagram of a prop designed for low speed. Looking at them as airfoils, and designing them for supersonic angular rotation speed may change that curve (as angular rotation speed remains well above forward speed). A prop turning at "only" 300 mph will have a significant change in relative wind at a forward velocity of 300 mph. So get more data points, such as turbo prop, and fan. Oct 19, 2019 at 6:38
• But supersonic props would be very noisy. Also, power AVAILABLE for (piston) prop is nearly constant because it's air/fuel intake is not dependent on airspeed. However, I'm not sure the turbojet curve rises from ZERO, as they can develop thrust and run at zero velocity. Jets do benefit from ram pressure as speed increases. So you can analyze power creation and thrust creation separately. They match more evenly with turbojets. Turbofans may be a bit more interesting, as are the Blackbird powerplants. Oct 19, 2019 at 11:45
• Turbojet thrust is far from constant. But it's real power curve is quite strange, having a local minimum usually around M0.2, then increasing to a maximum somewhere in the supersonic region (where depends on the specific engine) and then declines, because after all the available power is finite. Oct 21, 2019 at 21:28

Turboprops and turbojets - or, more broadly, jets - produce thrust in somewhat different ways.

First of all, let's address the way thrust is produced. Per Newton's 2nd and 3rd laws, force equals acceleration times mass, and an action (accelerating the air) produces an opposite reaction. After canceling out the variables (the math is easy to find), thrust is proportional to T=v*m' (m'=mass flow rate), and power transferred to the air is proportional to P=v^2*m'/2. All velocities are in the airplane's frame of reference.

Now let's go to how engines produce this thrust. A jet engine first decelerates the incoming air to a near-zero velocity, generating drag, then accelerates it to a constant velocity, higher than the initial one, producing thrust. Both v and m' for a jet engine vary across the envelope, but they change much slower than the plane's speed. The engine spends roughly the same amount of power per unit thrust at any velocity.

A propeller doesn't decelerate the air at all. It only accelerates the incoming air by some amount. This converts power P into velocity v. Now, per above, P~v^2. If you encounter air moving at 0 m/s, you need 5 kJ/kg to accelerate it to 100 m/s. If the air is already moving at 100 m/s, you need 15 kJ/kg to get it to 200 m/s.

The result is that propellers encounter less resistance at low airspeed, so they get more thrust per horsepower the slower the plane is. This allows them to push more air or push it faster, producing more thrust. For fixed-pitch propellers, this works by producing more air delta-V and less drag. High-performance turboprops tend to have variable pitch propellers, which will be adjusted to push more air (slower) at low airspeed, or less (but faster) at high airspeed.

Turbofans, combining a fixed-pitch ducted propeller with a turbojet core, are somewhat in between. They lose some efficiency and some thrust as they gain more speed, like propellers, but their curve is much smoother and closer to turbojets in this regard.

The above is an extreme simplification (as is the jet's thrust curve in the question), just enough to get the idea across. The jet's actual thrust is also non-linear, which has been addressed in another question: How (and why) does engine thrust changes with airspeed?

• "A jet engine first decelerates the incoming air to a near-zero velocity" I don't recall having read this here (TBF, this is my aviation experience) before. Can you explain this bit some more, or is that fodder for a whole new question? Oct 21, 2019 at 19:54
• @FreeMan This applies in the airplane's frame of reference, where the air is moving and the plane is still. The compressor section of the jet engine decelerates the air in flight, or accelerates it on the ground, to the point that its velocity entering the combustion chamber is nearly equal in either case. Oct 21, 2019 at 21:16
• So it's not actually stationary with respect to the ground, but with respect to the engine? Oct 22, 2019 at 3:48
• @FreeMan Yes. In aviation, forces and velocities are normally considered relative to the aircraft. Oct 22, 2019 at 11:23
• This makes intuitive sense. Is there a formal proof for these models?
– JZYL
Oct 22, 2019 at 11:54

Assuming that the net thrust of a turbojet is constant is not correct. It is assumed to be constant (for simplicity by the aircraft performance engineers and usually valid for low subsonic speeds), but in reality, the performance is not constant, and it also varies with altitude. This is best shown by a simple simulation of a turbojet engine. The following graph shows the net thrust as function of the Mach number. It clearly shows that the net thrust is not constant with speed:

The inlet of the turbojet slows the flow down and creates the optimal conditions for producing the exhaust jet. A turboprop relies on adding energy to the freestream air, as the speed of the airframe increases, there is less energy can be added to accelerate the flow.

• The lapse rate of jet engines is sufficiently small for a constant thrust model to be valid for back of envelope estimations.
– JZYL
Dec 2, 2019 at 17:04
• A small nitpick: the axes on that graph do not intersect at (0, 0), which may mislead casual readers. In reality it shows less than 10% variation in the thrust output over the Mach range, but it looks larger when presented this way. Dec 3, 2019 at 9:14

There are several effects which in combination make constant thrust a good approximation at subsonic speed.

Thrust is created by accelerating a working mass in opposite direction. Net thrust is the difference between the impulse of the air flowing towards the engine and the combined impulse of burnt fuel and the air exiting the engine (and propeller, if one is fitted), derived after the time. Since that impulse is the product of mass and speed, you can either accelerate a large mass by a small speed difference, like a propeller does, or a small mass by a large speed difference, like a turbojet does.

When flying faster, the entry impulse of a propeller quickly grows large relative to the exit impulse, so thrust goes down with the inverse of speed. On the other hand, the high exit speed of a turbojet results only in a small increase of the entry impulse relative to the exit impulse while speed increases.

But if that were all, even the thrust of a turbojet engine would drop when speed increases. But there is a second effect which helps to let thrust grow with speed. With the square of speed, to be precise. That is the ram effect which helps to precompress the air entering the engine. At subsonic speed, this just about compensates for the loss of thrust: At low speed, the growing entry impulse lets thrust drop a bit but at higher subsonic speed the ram effect becomes larger and raises thrust again, such that a constant thrust becomes a good approximation. However, at supersonic speed the ram effect becomes dominant and thrust grows with speed squared – until the absolute internal pressure becomes too high so the engine must be throttled (or the aircraft needs to fly higher) or the shock losses in the intake become too large and thrust drops again.