Why don't rudders stall at 30 deg deflection, as they don't have downwash to reduce local AOA like flaps and horizontal tails do?
or do they?
I understand flaps and horizontal tails don't stall at 30 deg deflection as the downwash from the wing reduces the local Angle of Attack, so flaps and horizontal tails aren't seeing an angle of attack of 30 deg even though they are deflected by 30 deg.
However, there is no "vertical downwash" from the wing to help the rudder. Why don't rudders stall at 30 deg deflection when most classic NACA airfoils stall at about 15-20 deg?