Here is the scenario. Joe owns a Cessna 172. Joe hires Tim to fly him in his 172 from A to B. Tim is a Commercial Pilot. Is this legal?
So far, everyone has said yes to this question, but not one person I have asked can cite a regulation or regulations for me.
Here is my chain of Logic: Part 61.133(a)(1)(i):
(i) Carrying persons or property for compensation or hire, provided the person is qualified in accordance with this part and with the applicable parts of this chapter that apply to the operation; and
Alright, let's see which part(s) apply to Tim.
Looking at 119.1(a)(1):
(a) This part applies to each person operating or intending to operate civil aircraft - (1) As an air carrier or commercial operator, or both, in air commerce; or
Now let's see if any of those apply to us. Perhaps "commercial operator". 1.1:
Commercial operator means a person who, for compensation or hire, engages in the carriage by aircraft in air commerce of persons or property, other than as an air carrier or foreign air carrier or under the authority of Part 375 of this title. Where it is doubtful that an operation is for “compensation or hire”, the test applied is whether the carriage by air is merely incidental to the person's other business or is, in itself, a major enterprise for profit.
Okay. This Tim seems to be operating as a Commercial Operator.
Now look at 119.23(b):
(b) Each person who conducts noncommon carriage (except as provided in § 91.501(b) of this chapter) or private carriage operations for compensation or hire with airplanes having a passenger-seat configuration of less than 20 seats, excluding each crewmember seat, and a payload capacity of less than 6,000 pounds shall - (2) Conduct those operations in accordance with the requirements of part 135 of this chapter, except for those requirements applicable only to commuter operations; and
Well we want to be under part 91, so let's look at the exception provided as 91.501(b)
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91.501(b):
(b) Operations that may be conducted under the rules in this subpart instead of those in parts 121, 129, 135, and 137 of this chapter when common carriage is not involved, include - (4) Flights conducted by the operator of an airplane for his personal transportation, or the transportation of his guests when no charge, assessment, or fee is made for the transportation;
Number 4 seems to apply! Awesome!
But let's take a look at 91.501(a):
(a) This subpart prescribes operating rules, in addition to those prescribed in other subparts of this part, governing the operation of large airplanes of U.S. registry, turbojet-powered multiengine civil airplanes of U.S. registry, and fractional ownership program aircraft of U.S. registry that are operating under subpart K of this part in operations not involving common carriage. The operating rules in this subpart do not apply to those aircraft when they are required to be operated under parts 121, 125, 129, 135, and 137 of this chapter. (Section 91.409 prescribes an inspection program for large and for turbine-powered (turbojet and turboprop) multiengine airplanes and turbine-powered rotorcraft of U.S. registry when they are operated under this part or part 129 or 137.)
What is a Large Aircraft. 1.1:
Large aircraft means aircraft of more than 12,500 pounds, maximum certificated takeoff weight.
Okay, a Cessna 172 is not a Large Aircraft or turbojet multiengine. And this is not a Fractional Ownership Program since that requires 2 aircraft in the first place.
So, from my understand, Tim cannot fly for Joe since 91.501(a) says this part does not apply, BUT wait. 91.501(b) says it is allowed.
How is this intrepreted? Does 91.501(b) apply only to large aircraft and such on a fractional ownership program? What am I missing?
Everyone I know says it is allowed, but the rules seem to be different. Any help is appreciated.