How are runways on sectional charts that are listed as private identified?

Lets say I fly from a public airport to a private strip; I would log the departure airport as BNA, but what would I list the private strip as?

Generally, what is the accepted norm?

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    $\begingroup$ Is this US specific? Or are you interested in general/ICAO conventions? $\endgroup$ – Jamiec May 2 '19 at 7:24
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    $\begingroup$ Where are you logging this? Pilot log book, booking out at the departure airport, flight plan? $\endgroup$ – Dave Gremlin May 2 '19 at 9:21
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    $\begingroup$ Possible duplicate of How does the FAA determine which format of location identifier to assign to an airport? $\endgroup$ – Lady_A May 2 '19 at 14:10
  • $\begingroup$ @Lady_A I'm not asking how the identification of airports are determined when they're named, I am asking what you log an airport as in a logbook if it has no identifier on a sectional chart and is not included in an AF/D. $\endgroup$ – Ryan Mortensen May 3 '19 at 2:33
  • $\begingroup$ @DaveGremlin Pilot logbook. $\endgroup$ – Ryan Mortensen May 3 '19 at 2:33

In the USA, as far as your logbook is concerned, FAR 61.51(b)(1)(iii) only requires "Location where the aircraft departed and arrived," not the 4-letter ICAO identifier of your airports. When you abbreviate the airport with its identifier, that's all you're doing: abbreviating. You could, for instance, write "Nashville International Airport" instead of "KBNA."

Seaplane and helicopter pilots often land in places that aren't even airports. You might log the destination as "Murphy Lake" or "Walmart Parking Lot." Such is the standard convention.

For purposes of the flight plan, there are a few options if flying to a location that has no identifier. On an ICAO flight plan to a location with no identifier, you would enter ZZZZ as your airport, and in the remarks section include a DEST/ group including the lat/long of your destination. For instance, I think DEST/3607N08641W would work. On an FAA flight plan, you can list the nearest waypoint to your destination, and again, describe your actual destination as a common name or lat/long in the remarks.

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  • $\begingroup$ Those of us with wheels on our planes have also been known to land in places that aren't airports, e.g. dry lake beds. And FWIW, I don't think I've ever used those 3/4 letter codes in my logbook, if for no other reason than that if I look back in it, I'd like to know what place(s) the logbook entries refer to without having to look up the codes. $\endgroup$ – jamesqf May 2 '19 at 17:52
  • $\begingroup$ @Dave-CFII I think you bring up a great missed point here. There are tons of "non-airport" destinations for perfectly legal operations which clearly kills any idea that you must log an airport much less an ID. $\endgroup$ – Ryan Mortensen May 3 '19 at 2:40
  • $\begingroup$ Ditto to above. It's fun to land on roads. Log every landing! $\endgroup$ – quiet flyer May 5 '19 at 20:08

I would use the airport identifier, if available, or the name on the sectional. For example, on this section of NY sectional, you can see several (Pvt) airports, they are indicated by red R in a circle. PASPORT is enterable in skyvector.com as a destination, as is WATERS. Entering them as a destination, skyvector will change them to an airport identifier, which you can then type in as a waypoint.

B&B, just north of PASPORT, can't be entered as anything I could find to start. But, dragging the pink route line, it can be pulled over B&B and then it shows up with an identifier you can use. Same with the Unknown airport south of 9B1.

If you click on the Departure or Destination airport, skyvector will open more info for that airport, and from there a list of all airports and their identifiers in the state can be selected. B&B and Unknown are both listed there. enter image description here

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  • $\begingroup$ You can also put the name into Airnav and get the identifier that way. $\endgroup$ – StephenS May 2 '19 at 16:03
  • $\begingroup$ Huh - I would have thought "unknown" would either have tons of matches, or been unrecognized - yet there it is, 1MA5 in Southborough, MA. $\endgroup$ – CrossRoads May 2 '19 at 17:06
  • $\begingroup$ Whoever named 1MA5 as "Unknown Field" must have had a weird sense of humor. $\endgroup$ – StephenS May 2 '19 at 18:04
  • $\begingroup$ One of the pilots from 9B1 created that strip, he was a former airline pilot I believe. Passed away a few years ago. I think the runway might be a road in a housing development now. $\endgroup$ – CrossRoads May 2 '19 at 21:09
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    $\begingroup$ @RyanMortensen "Objectionable" is something different and worth its own question. $\endgroup$ – StephenS May 4 '19 at 1:15

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