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Are there any clear-cut fines for flying an aircraft like a Global 5000 which is not single-pilot certified by a single pilot?

And what would be the probability of being caught and how would they catch you?

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    $\begingroup$ FAA penalties are not like automobile speeding tickets: "5 to 10mph above: \$50 fine; 11 to 20mph above: \$200 fine". Instead, once a violation has been found, the penalty can be arbitrary and wide-ranging, from required retraining, suspended licenses, revocation of your license, or in extreme cases, referral for criminal prosecution. $\endgroup$
    – abelenky
    Nov 30, 2018 at 16:37

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According to FAA Order 2150-3B in Appendix B (penalty guidelines) the recommended penalty for "Failure to comply with operating limitation" is a 30 to 90 day license suspension. That is what I would expect would happen in real life if the FAA investigator thought that the pilot had no good reason for operating without a co-pilot. If there was some good reason and the pilot's record was clean otherwise, they might change it to a warning.

I disagree with the other answers that claim it would be quickly reported. Unless an informed passenger noticed it and reported it, I doubt it would get reported by anyone else. The fuel guys have no idea what operating limitations are or who is operating the plane. In many cases, crew and passengers are long gone by the time the fuel truck pulls up. For the fuel truck to deal with just one guy or to fuel an unoccupied aircraft is commonplace. For all the fuel truck guy knows, there could be crew inside the aircraft doing stuff. He has absolutely no idea what the operating situation of the aircraft is.

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  • $\begingroup$ What might be accepted reasons for "operating without a co-pilot"? $\endgroup$
    – user19440
    Oct 16, 2019 at 23:04
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    $\begingroup$ They've died? They've fallen out of the aircraft? $\endgroup$
    – Dan
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FAA Order 2150-3B outlines the enforcement actions that the FAA may take. Here are a few:

  • Civil penalties (cash fines) of up to \$50,000 for individuals and small businesses and up to $400,000 for larger businesses
  • Suspension or revocation of your license
  • Seizure of the aircraft
  • Lien on the aircraft up to the amount of the civil penalty
  • Medical denials

What exactly the FAA decides to do when it finds out is up to the FAA and subject to the surrounding circumstances. If you moved the airplane from Podunk A 10 miles to Podunk B, or if you decided to buzz the Whitehouse and wave to the President, these would be evaluated differently.

At the very least your license would probably be revoked or suspended, the FAA doesn't take that very lightly (it is not done often). Most likely you would not be given jail time, as this particular violation doesn't fall under one of the criminal violations (see page 4-39 in linked document).

As far as probability, it would be high, as John K says, you need to be around a lot of ground people (fueling, movement, etc). They would catch you by noticing that you are the only pilot in the cockpit when the aircraft starts moving. Not to mention that the aircraft is not single-pilot certified for a reason, it would be difficult to fly it by yourself (not necessarily impossible, but you will probably be noticed by ATC as you try to do a lot more workload than your resources allow).

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    $\begingroup$ I don't think it's hard to fly alone at all if the pilot is decently proficient and sharp. When I was flying RJs I had sim access with motion off (I could run it if it wasn't in use and I had to leave the bridge down) but with visuals and everything else working, and used to practice flying it alone all the time. Very useful skill set to have for an incapacitated crew situation. $\endgroup$
    – John K
    Nov 30, 2018 at 21:41
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    $\begingroup$ @JohnK Just curious why access with motion off is given? Why weren't you allowed to use the full sim? $\endgroup$ Dec 1, 2018 at 12:51
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    $\begingroup$ Because the sim accumulates chargeable operating hours when the motion is on but not when it's just the electronics powered up and it's sitting stationary with the bridge down and door open. To be run with full motion there had to be a qualified instructor running it with a paying customer. The training center where it was located was close by and it was an unofficial courtesy afforded to company pilots when the sim was idle. $\endgroup$
    – John K
    Dec 1, 2018 at 14:14
  • $\begingroup$ Couldn't disagree more about the probability of being caught. If you don't crash or bust airspace you can get away with pretty much anything for a very long time. $\endgroup$ Feb 21, 2019 at 0:51
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The probability of getting caught would be pretty high because you would be around ramp crew all the time and somebody would notice there's only one pilot aboard when there are normally always 2. But you could probably get away with it a few times.

Penalty for that kind of thing would depend on the circumstances and motivations. At minimum a fine of a couple grand and a license suspension for a number of months. A professional pilot who depends on his/her license would be insane to do it unless it was for life and death reasons (like escaping from some dangerous place).

Possibly jail time. Authorities in the 80s and 90s started to revise regulations to add the option of criminal liability for certain violations on top of administrative punishments, to give the rules more bite.

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  • $\begingroup$ So you are saying putting a guy (non pilot) in a fake uniform next to you on the copilot seat would drastically reduce the risk? $\endgroup$
    – user19440
    Dec 1, 2018 at 23:07
  • $\begingroup$ Yes in theory. Then it would just come down to whether the owner of the airplane discovers it, or ground personnel notices that your FO appears to know absolutely nothing about airplanes and just stands around doing squat and keeping his mouth shut as you handle every detail. That would stick out like a sore thumb because FOs normally do all the grunt work. For every hour of flying a jet, there is an hour of work done on the ground and a lot of interfacing with folks one on one, especially a corporate a/c. It would be hard to hide the truth for long. $\endgroup$
    – John K
    Dec 2, 2018 at 2:53
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It seems highly unlikely that you would be caught if you flew a 2 crew aircraft as a single pilot. The real issue would be what would happen if there was an accident, even a small non-injury accident, and there was an investigation. And the bigger issue would not be what the FAA would do but what the insurance company, or aircraft owner, would do.

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