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I know that many variables play into the required thrust for a take-off and for climb. Most of those specs boil down to a targeted gross weight, wing loading and L/D ratio. Intended flying speed range is also known but probably not even needed for this estimate. Using these specs then I can roughly assume that many specs have been taken into account for a thrust calculations.

For ex. aircraft is gross weight 400 lb with L/D ratio of 10. Assuming a non-accelerating level flight at optimal cruise speed 50 mph in no wind condition it will require at least 400 / 10 = 40 lb of thrust. Based on above numbers how to make rough estimate of the minimal thrust required for a reasonably short take-off (say within 500 to 1,000ft roll of runway) ?

Note: please keep in mind I am familiar with many other conditions and aircraft specs effecting the required thrust. Yet for 100 years practical aircraft designers used very simple math approach to estimate needed thrust. I personally knew one of old generation designers who did this well in many of his successful designs using simple math dealing with few numbers (he passed away years ago). He only used gross weight, wing loading and targeted L/D ratio chosen from his experience. Please share if you know the answer.

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http://www.dept.aoe.vt.edu/~lutze/AOE3104/takeoff&landing.pdf

This source has been really helpful for me in calculating takeoff time and takeoff distance. In this method, the author uses thrust as an input to calculate takeoff distance, but obviously you could re-arrange the equations to calculate for thrust if you knew the other variables. You will likely need to know the static thrust (zero speed thrust) of your engine and then can calculate for thrust required at takeoff. I would recommend putting the equations into an excel spreadsheet where you can then play with all the inputs until you reach a desired result. Hope this helps!

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  • $\begingroup$ Thank you Jason for this reference. It calculates from the other end: from known BHP of a chosen engine which is opposite goal to mine. I need to find required thrust and whence power for take-off in order to arrive at what engine power I need for this design. Then I just make the motor I need :) Also those calculations are far from "simple" as they require more decisions to be made on the particular specs. I cast plus for your answer but it only recorded - does not change the publicly shown as I am new here. $\endgroup$ – VladBlanshey May 1 '18 at 0:00

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