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I started working as a flight instructor and have a couple of questions about logging sim time as a CFII:

  1. If I fly a sim session with my student can I log the sim time as dual-given time?
  2. If the sim session was conducted in simulated IMC, can I also log that for myself as simulated instrument time? Or does it only count for the student?
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    $\begingroup$ Why What do you put a hood or foggles on in a Sim when it can simulate IMC already? $\endgroup$ – Carlo Felicione Jan 19 '18 at 15:44
  • $\begingroup$ Logging sim time as an instructor has no value for additional certificates, ratings or currency reasons. $\endgroup$ – wbeard52 Jan 19 '18 at 15:59
  • $\begingroup$ Somewhat related reddit.com/r/flying/comments/7rex51/… $\endgroup$ – Steve Kuo Jan 19 '18 at 16:10
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    $\begingroup$ You can log anything you want, whether or not it counts towards something is entirely different. See Logging time in a simulator. It says as a CFI you can log it, however you should log it separately from other training (or make it clear in the entry) that you are using an ATD. $\endgroup$ – Ron Beyer Jan 19 '18 at 17:54
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    $\begingroup$ Please specify what jurisdiction you are asking for $\endgroup$ – TomMcW Jan 21 '18 at 20:10
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A Level C or D Full Flight Simulator (FFS) can be used for all training required for an initial type rating, a 61.58 check, an IPC, landings required to maintain landing and instrument currency. In fact, so long as it is not (in most cases) your first type rating, you can fly a Level C or D sim, get certified and then walk out to the airplane, load it up with PAX and go flying, legally while having ZERO actual flight time in the actual aircraft.

So I would say yes you can log Dual given in a flight simulator, but you cannot log that time as flight time.

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  • $\begingroup$ Level D is zero flying time, Level C is not. $\endgroup$ – Koyovis Jan 21 '18 at 1:37
  • $\begingroup$ That is not correct @Koyovis. We have a Level C sim and there is ZERO flying time required to fly the actual aircraft unless you do not meet the 61.64 requirements (same as Level D). This is true for all Level C simulators certified under Part 60 in the US. $\endgroup$ – Richard Jan 21 '18 at 19:55
  • $\begingroup$ Yes indeed, Level C has zero flying time for what it is certified for. But it is not certified for all of the curriculum, if it was it would be a Level D. $\endgroup$ – Koyovis Jan 22 '18 at 21:36
  • $\begingroup$ Once again, incorrect @Koyovis. Level C and D have nothing to with the curriculum. We can do absolutely everything in the Level C that we can do in the Level D. The primary differences are 1) Visual Systems, 2) Motion Systems and 3) Audio Systems. Level D is a more high fidelity version of the two. We use the identical curriculum in both sims. This is based on the US FAA part 60 standards, I am not sure about other countries. $\endgroup$ – Richard Feb 3 '18 at 19:23
  • $\begingroup$ Why don't you check FAA 14CFR 60, requirements for Full Flight Simulators, Appendix A. In a Level C you cannot train for situations that are not modeled. Requirements applicable to Level D only: 2.k. The aerodynamic modeling in the simulator must include: (1) Low-altitude level-flight ground effect; (2) Mach effect at high altitude; (3) Normal and reverse dynamic thrust effect on control surfaces; (4) Aeroelastic representations; and (5) Nonlinearities due to sideslip. $\endgroup$ – Koyovis Feb 5 '18 at 5:34

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