In an aircraft like F-16, how do the pilot prevent going faster than Vne (velocity, not exceed)?

From the block 50 manual it seems to indicate Vne is 800KIAS/2.05M.

I believe even the earliest F-16s could go mach 2, so the newer with their much more powerful engine should easy exceed 2.05 mach.

Is there an automated system that reduce throttle when exceeding?

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    $\begingroup$ The pilot controls the speed and makes sure it doesn't go too fast $\endgroup$ – Steve Kuo Nov 21 '17 at 15:37
  • $\begingroup$ I don't think the answer to this is very different from the answer to the same question about any other plane. I could probably pretty easily get the single-engine propeller trainer I'm flying at least well close to Vne by gaining some altitude then pointing the nose hard down and pushing the throttle to maximum. Not saying I'm going to try it, mind you. Likely much the same applies to a Boeing 777... $\endgroup$ – user Nov 21 '17 at 16:01
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    $\begingroup$ @MichaelKjörling The question is basically if there's hard limits in the FLCS system for airspeed, just like an Airbus does. (i.e. the FBW Airbus will put in an unoverridable pitch up command to prevent overspeed) I know the F-16 has hard AOA limiters (just like an Airbus), but not sure for airspeed. $\endgroup$ – user71659 Nov 21 '17 at 21:56

Section V of the Block 50 F-16 Flight Manual, is the "operating limitations". It says:

MAXIMUM AIRSPEED OPERATING LIMITATIONS Refer to figure 5 3. Maximum operating airspeed is 800 knots from sea level to 30,000 feet MSL. Above 30,000 feet MSL, the aircraft is limited to 2.05 mach.

The introduction to section V states (my emphasis):

The aircraft and system limitations that must be observed during normal operations are presented in this section..

What does "observe" mean? One might assume that means the pilot can just sit back and watch them automatically occur, or the pilot must "observe" them by knowing and acting apon them. As evidence it is most likely this second interpretation, the list of contents in this section appears to be many things that the pilot needs to do.

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It does not seem like a list of things the aircraft does automatically.

But more signifficantly, the contents of the flight manual also includes a section describing the flight law control system (FLCS) limiters:

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There is no mention of maximum speed.

So, it looks strongly like the FLCS limits 4 things (AOA/G, roll, yaw, rudder authority), and warns you about some other things (low speed), but does NOT limit maximum speed.

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    $\begingroup$ Observed means the limitations should be respected and followed by the pilot. Values give their should not be exceeded for safe operations. $\endgroup$ – Carlo Felicione Nov 25 '17 at 5:28
  • $\begingroup$ @CarloFelicione. Yes, I agree, and maybe should have worded it more strongly in that direction. But the black and white evidence that really puts it beyond doubt is the contents of the section describing the FLCS limiters. $\endgroup$ – Penguin Nov 25 '17 at 12:26

No. Canopy plastic don't withstand the speed,also the inlet lip temperature must be kept just inside the safety margins. I read about early pilots going in a slope downward and been killed by overspeed and flutter at the moment. 814Knots is maximum safe for me. 1.9Mach is been done at the40. 000feet.

  • $\begingroup$ The question is about how the speed limits are enforced, not why they exist. $\endgroup$ – HiddenWindshield Jan 17 at 0:15
  • $\begingroup$ If you have any pylons on will not be able to fly more than the Mach2 at altitude orMach 1,2 lower. That is. Limit is the drag and engine temperature , but pilot must watch the inlet temperature .Only in dive you can exceed Vne. $\endgroup$ – George Geo Jan 17 at 8:39
  • $\begingroup$ Can you provide some sources for this information? And what do you mean by 814 knots is max safe for you? $\endgroup$ – Jpe61 Jan 17 at 8:57
  • $\begingroup$ The red flag is at that value on the aircraft speed meter or Mach 2.05 (with altitudes this change so first comes first it will be enough for the safety reasons) . This is enough to accept.I fly sim. $\endgroup$ – George Geo Jan 17 at 9:09

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