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Can a turnpad also be used as a runway holding position?

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  • $\begingroup$ Since you're asking about regulations, please update your question to add which country and/or regulations you're interested in. This question has already been asked for the US, for example. $\endgroup$ – Pondlife Jun 26 '17 at 12:47
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No, since you must have been cleared to enter the runway to be on the turn pad. It is part of the runway.

From the point at which an aircraft is cleared to enter the runway, until it reports vacated or departs, the runway is occupied.

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  • $\begingroup$ I'm not sure if ATC clearance would be the legal impediment; I've seen multiple a/c cleared onto the active in lots of small/crowded/strange airports (BVA,LTN) . I would think the lack of a holding marker on the ground would be a bigger issue, as I have effectivelly no reference of a line where my a/c will not inteferere with the one on arrival $\endgroup$ – Radu094 Jun 25 '17 at 12:07
  • $\begingroup$ @Radu094 Since you can't hold on an active runway, once cleared to enter, you must either vacate, take-off or abort. Regardless of how many aircraft, one or more means the runway is occupied. $\endgroup$ – Simon Jun 25 '17 at 12:15
  • $\begingroup$ well that's exactelly what (for instance) LTN does: with a clear to enter, backtrack, lineup and hold, then clear for intersection t/o for a second a/c behind us. Not sure of the legal implications, I was suprised originally, but now it seems common practice $\endgroup$ – Radu094 Jun 25 '17 at 13:09
  • $\begingroup$ @Radu094 Are you sure it's line up and hold, not line up and wait? That sounds like a recipe for an accident. $\endgroup$ – Simon Jun 25 '17 at 13:18
  • $\begingroup$ from memory :" ..via Alpha clear to enter, backtrack, line-up and hold, there is departure ahead" ...I need to pay more attention to the radio... $\endgroup$ – Radu094 Jun 26 '17 at 8:27

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