# Where can I find speed and thrust data for airplanes during the approach?

While trying to gather information on fuel consumption during the approach I have found this equation :

$$f=C_{f1}\cdot (1+V_{TAS}/C_{f2})\cdot T$$ (on this FAA paper)

• $f$ is the fuel flow
• $T$ is the thrust acting parallel to the aircraft velocity vector
• $C_{f1}$ and $C_{f2}$ are the first and second thrust-specific fuel consumption coefficient
• $V_{TAS}$ is the true air speed

From what I have understood Cf1 and Cf2 are constant and their values can be found (all the documents regarding these issues are 100 pages papers so I have not read everything yet).

I would like to plot the fuel flow for different airspeeds and thrusts. What are the typical values during the approach ? I would like to have these data for several flights during the last 20 or 25 minutes of the flight.

What I am looking for is exactly what flightaware.com provides except that they use ground speed (an exemple here). How can I convert to TAS ? Also they don't provide anything on thrust. Do you know where I can find thrust data ?

• For what it may be worth, a 747-200 with Pratt & Whitney JT9 engines at flaps 30 degrees, gear down, stabilized on a 3 degree glideslope will show a fuel flow of approximately 5,000 lbs/hr for each engine. Feb 11 '17 at 19:55