# How can one fly a stabilized approach when the final approach path is curved?

Some approaches, like the KMTN VOR/DME RWY15 depicted below, have a final approach segment that is curved (in the case below, the entire leg from FAF to RWY is one big DME arc, but this could also happen in RNAV approaches using Radius-to-Fix instead). However, it is said that one cannot be in a turn in order for an approach to be considered "stabilized" (this is most often stated in the context of circling approaches, but is still applicable for straight-ins of course). What does one do when stuck with an approach that cannot be flown within stabilized approach criteria?

• A better example of an approach with a curved final segment would be this one (albeit no longer in use). Oct 23, 2019 at 23:06
• @Sean -- True. One could also look to the RNP RF approaches in service in places like KGUC and KRIL for examples, or also to the VOR-DME into KJFK 13L/R... Oct 23, 2019 at 23:12

Perhaps my thinking is now considered outmoded (retired in 1999), but for me the definition of a stabilized approach doesn't preclude turning, but only that the turning (when necessary) is accomplished at a stabilized rate. The idea was to be setup in landing configuration, at your stabilized final approach speed, sink rate, and power and tracking whatever the approach path is from the FAF down to the landing flare.

For tracking DME arcs, we were taught to find that angle of bank that (given our final approach speed) produced the desired turn rate. We would hold that bank, just as we would hold wings level for a straight final approach path.

If the DME started in increase, steepen the bank a little. If it started to decrease, lessen the bank a little.

It may be easier to think of a DME arc as a polygon rather than a circle.

Most of the time would be flown wings level, and with a 14.7 mile arc, there would be a lot of room for correction. So I would say this would be like any other approach except that the final approach course just isn't a straight line.

As far as missed approaches go, once your turn exceeds runway heading at the correct distance of 14.7 miles one would execute.

One thing I do find interesting however: normally once a pilot reaches full needle deflection on the primary navigation instrument they would execute the missed approach. A DME arc follows different rules, so I would be curious what the limits would be with a DME reading as a course guide. +/- .5 miles or something along those lines?

• That last question of yours is quite worthy of a question of its own on this Stack :) Nov 1, 2016 at 4:27
• @UnrecognizedFallingObject: You can simulate that on good luizmonteiro.com page ;-)
– mins
Nov 1, 2016 at 14:38