My AFSP training request expires next week. Can I do my instrument checkride past that date?

Technically checkride is not flight training (all of my training is complete at this point), so it's not clear to me if I can do it or not.

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    $\begingroup$ @mins I don't think this is a dupe, even if they come from the same scenario. As I understand them, the other question asks if an existing approval can be extended, whereas this one asks if an approval is even needed for a checkride. $\endgroup$
    – Pondlife
    Oct 13 '16 at 19:48
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    $\begingroup$ Agreed, this asks a completely different question, and one that I am now curious about! $\endgroup$
    – Lnafziger
    Oct 13 '16 at 20:48
  • $\begingroup$ Yes, this is definitely a different question. $\endgroup$
    – J Walters
    Oct 13 '16 at 20:51
  • $\begingroup$ @Pondlife. Ok, VTC retracted. $\endgroup$
    – mins
    Oct 13 '16 at 23:31

As far as I can tell (and from my own experience), you don't need any TSA approval for a checkride.

Looking at the regulations, 49 CFR 1552.1 defines flight training as "instruction received from a flight school" (including from individual instructors). A checkride isn't instruction, as you said, although I can't find a regulation that explicitly says that (probably because there's no real need for one).

And looking at the FAA's requirements for checkrides:

There's also nothing in the IACRA process about the TSA or security either, which makes sense because that should match the checkride eligibility instructions.

My own experience is also that it isn't relevant to the checkride. I've done two instrument checkrides after getting the TSA's approval for training and neither DE asked me for any information about the TSA or AFSP, they were only interested in my logbook (and medical etc.). I suppose there could have been some extra check behind the scenes or in IACRA that I wasn't aware of (and my TSA approvals were still valid) but I doubt that was the case.

Finally, I realize that all this still doesn't give a positive confirmation that it's allowed, so if you want to have that I suggest you call the AFSP hotline and/or your local FSDO to get a definite statement.


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