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The CH-46 and the CH-47 Chinook are very similar-looking aircraft and seem to serve similar purposes - only though for different branches of the U.S. military.

  • What are the differences between the CH-46 and the CH-47?

  • Why does the military run both instead of settling on one?

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  • $\begingroup$ The military don't run both. Where did you come up with that? The V-22 replaced the Phrog. (CH-46) for the Marines, and the CH-60S/MH-60S replased the CH-46 or the Navy Vertrep mission starting about 15 years ago. Part of the problem was that it was going to cost about a billion dollars to restart the CH-46 line in Philadelphia back in the late 90's ... but that's another story. $\endgroup$ Oct 3, 2016 at 1:37
  • $\begingroup$ Another of the issues leading to retirement is that the 46 airframe was apparently subject to a lot more fatigue issues than the 47. Everytime I flew in one it seemed the thing was trying to shake itself like a dog when the blades started turning. :) It would seem logical that the effort to overhaul airframes would cost so much money that it would be considered yet another reason to pursue a completely different aircraft as a replacement. The Osprey can also get to wherever it is going much faster than the 46, 47, or 60's. Big issue when having to deliver Marines in a hurry. $\endgroup$ Jun 21, 2020 at 2:17

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The difference is in mission, and the difference is non trivial.

The twin rotor configuration goes back to the 1960's. ("Flying banana" Piasecki H-21. The CH-47 replaced it in Viet Nam in 1965). Chinook became the Army's heavy tactical lift during Vietnam. Like the C-130, that particular design is timeless. The CH-47F is the current configuration. It carries about twice as much as a CH-46 could. It is also one of the faster helicopters there is (it can fly almost 200kts) though the CH-53E has flown faster.

The CH-46 was an adaptation of the same idea, but made smaller and marinized: it had to meet a host of Marine Corps and Navy requirements to fit on amphibious ships and supply ships. Space and fit are non-trivial limitations when writing requirements for naval aircraft. (As an aside, the US military no longer operates the CH-46. It appears that the last CH-46 squadron in the USMC, HMM 774, let go of its last Phrogs in 2015 and is now VMM 774, flying V-22's. The Navy Sundown for CH-46 was in 2004.)

Not having to take off some power for a tail rotor is an advantage. The CH-46 mission for the Marine Corps was vertical assault (it carried more than a Huey and predecessors like the CH-34); for the Navy, it was the VERTREP mission.

The payload and maneuvering benefits from the lack of a tail rotor made the VERTREP mission a perfect fit for the CH-46. One of the challenges in ship borne operations is the ability to run simultaneously resupply by air and ship-to-ship (UNREP) while not being operationally constrained (for the ship drivers) "getting into the wind." That limitation tail rotor helicopters don't handle as well as the CH-46. (That point was a core argument against CH-60S as replacement for CH-46; but that's another matter). I've flown VERTREP in helicopters with tail rotors; the CH-46 was less constrained than we were.

What about Marine and Navy Heavy Lift missions?

The Marine Heavy lift (analogue to the CH-47 for the Army and Air Force CSAR) is fulfilled with the CH-53, and has been for over 40 years. The CH-53 can fold its tail to fit on a ship. Even with folded blades, the Chinook's deck footprint is / was too large(at the time) on the amphibious ships in service. The Navy VOD (heavy lift) was handled by CH-53's for 40 years. They have since given that mission to the MH-53E minesweepers. (Flexible, that's helicopters!)

Smart Requirement Writing led to smart choices

"The Military" would have made a significant mistake "to just make one type" since back in the 60s and 70s, making mission specific aircraft was the way to go. Quite frankly, it makes for cheaper aircraft to build it for one core mission. (See the A-10 as a fine example of that).

Note: An early failure in "one size fits all" was the F-111. A current "one size fits all" example of cost going through the roof is F-35.

At the time the CH-46 and CH-47 were procured, the military was smart: apply the KISS principle to get aircraft that fit mission requirements. The Army and Navy mission requirements were not identical.

(So how do I know all that? 25 years Navy pilot (helicopters, ASW warfare specialty, did other stuff like Vertrep ...), significant experience in multi-service operations, and a few years having to work in an acquisition job.)

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    $\begingroup$ Another example of the Navy being smart by not falling for congress' eternal attempt at a one size fits all piece of equipment is their refusal to buy the F-16 and navalise it, instead opting for the F/A-18. $\endgroup$
    – jwenting
    Oct 3, 2016 at 6:26
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    $\begingroup$ Another example of "on size fits all" is the A400M that is currently replacing transport aircraft in europe. $\endgroup$
    – Jost
    Oct 3, 2016 at 8:44
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    $\begingroup$ 25 years in naval aviation and a few years in procurement... There are some "why doesn't the military use x" questions hanging around on this site that I'd love to see your answers to. Especially the U2 v SR-71 debate. I know, different branch, but I figure you'd still be more informed on the subject than the answers we've had so far. $\endgroup$
    – Jay Carr
    Oct 3, 2016 at 17:55
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    $\begingroup$ @JayCarr While I am familiar with SR-71, I only ever worked with U-2 operationally, and that for less than a year. I'll take a look. $\endgroup$ Oct 3, 2016 at 18:33
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    $\begingroup$ @TomMcW That's the hypothesis, and a bit of wishful thinking that does not seem to have paid off in practice for aircraft. For radios, maybe it works. $\endgroup$ Oct 3, 2016 at 20:31
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They are run by different services- the CH-46 was operated by USN and USMC (before their retirement in 2015), while CH-47 is operated by the US Army and other foreign operators.

Both the aircraft look similar as their genesis lies in the same program. During 1950, the Vertol company started work on a medium lift helicopter, which led to the development of V-107, which the US army ordered as V-107. However, they later changed their requirements (they decided to use Hueys for tactical transport instead of V-107), leading to the larger and heavier V-114. While V-111 entered US army service as CH-47A Chinook, the smaller V-107 entered USMC service as CH-46A Sea Knight.

Though they look similar, they are in fact, quite different. CH-47 is much larger, has more powerful engines and has a substantially larger MTOW (22t for CH-47F as against 11t for CH-46E). Practically speaking, the helicopters are similar only in their tandem rotor configuration- otherwise they belong to separate weight classes.

Unlike CH-46, production is still running for CH-47.Coming to visual differences, the engine placement, landing gear and side sponsons are all different in both aircraft. globalsecurity.org has some details on this:

CH47-46

CH47-46

CH47-46

Differences between CH 47 and CH 46; images from globalsecurity.org

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Besides all the above differences which are correct, we can also add a type of difference the fate of them. Marines decided to retire and replace the CH-46 with the Bell/Boeing MV-22B Osprey whilst the Navy did the same with their UH-46 by MH-60S and civilian Pumas. The Army instead continue upgrading airframes as it has done since the 60s (upgrading A/B/C models to D, then D to F in the 90s) and nowadays is still fielding new build CH-47F-MYII blocks. This will assure the Chinnok a 100-year lifespan.

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