# Is it ok to lift locked armrests on aisle or window seats?

While reading this question, I came across a little trick, of how to lift up the locked arm-rests in window and aisle seats. Though I always wondered why they were locked, knowing that little trick now makes me wonder is it legal to lift locked arm-rests. Would it get me into any trouble with the cabin crews or the airline?

• @egid A passenger could knowingly move the armrest out of its locked position just before takeoff—while the cabin crew were watching, thus necessitating their intervention—but, based on any information we currently have in this or the linked supposed duplicate question/answer, that passenger has not performed any illegal action. – J Walters Mar 24 '16 at 10:51
• @Firee This doesn't answer your question, but I have frequently moved the isle armrest to the full upright position both during flight and after shutdown; as I recall, my actions have never received any notice of the cabin crew. – J Walters Mar 24 '16 at 10:57
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I'll have a go at this, but this answer applies only to the US.

First, is it legal? As far as I can see, yes. There are various regulations (e.g. 14 CFR 121.317) about specific items that passengers have to be briefed on and comply with instructions on. They include smoking, seatbelts, emergency exits, screens and tables etc. But there's no explicit mention of armrests and I didn't see any generic clause like "any other equipment" or whatever. So in the absence of any explicit or general regulation that says you can't, I would say you can.

Second, will it get you "into trouble"? Maybe. As the answer to a related question shows, the FAA doesn't want armrests to become an obstacle to evacuation and they advise crew members to make sure that armrests are locked down for takeoff and landing. Many airlines I've traveled on have an announcement about the armrests, even if there's no regulation that requires it. If the crew ask you to put your armrest down and you refuse then the 'best' thing that can happen is that they decide you're rude but not dangerous and let it go. But if you refuse repeatedly and they decide you're being confrontational or unlikely to follow other instructions then 14 CFR 91.11 would apply:

No person may assault, threaten, intimidate, or interfere with a crewmember in the performance of the crewmember's duties aboard an aircraft being operated.

Under that regulation, if the crew decides you're "interfering" with their duties (which include keeping you and everyone else safe), you'll probably get a police escort off the aircraft, especially if alcohol is involved.

But having said all that, I don't think this is a big deal at all. The FAA's concern seems to be about armrests that get stuck at an angle, not about ones that can be fully lifted. I've often seen passengers put up their armrests and I've never heard a crew member comment on it, but if they do ask you to lower them, arguing about regulations would probably be a bad idea.

• But having said all that, I don't think this is a big deal at all. : I think that summarizes it properly. Personally I never heard announcements to put the armrests back in position, though I never saw anybody move it in the first place. So many times I wanted to move it, in order to get up and give way to my co-passengers who wanted to use the loo. Am itching to try it the next time I fly on April 4th. – Firee Mar 25 '16 at 10:20
• At least in the UK, it is illegal not to comply with a lawful instruction given by a cabin crew member. "Lawful instruction" means one which itself is not illegal, nor would cause you to do something illegal. Thus, even though armrests might not be specifically mentioned, if a crew member instructs you to raise or lower it, that instruction is lawful and you commit an offence if you do not comply. Regarding the OP, I've never heard any instructions to do anything with armrests other than for take-off and landing so, if you raise it, and lower it when instructed, you are doing nothing wrong. – Simon Apr 3 '16 at 17:57