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As a kid I distinctly remember seeing aircraft like the bright blue KLM MD-11 having the prominent third engine on the tail.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLM#/media/File:KLM_MD_11_AMS.jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:KLM_MD_11_AMS.jpg

However, I don't think I've seen a plane in the past few years (besides maybe a few smaller private jets) that has a engine on the tail - let alone a trijet configuration.

What's with their disappearance?

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    $\begingroup$ Related: Why does the 747 have 4 engines instead of 2? $\endgroup$
    – fooot
    Sep 25, 2015 at 15:05
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    $\begingroup$ FedEx currently flies at least one trijet, as I see it on approach most days about 5 pm. Quite large, maybe an MD-11? $\endgroup$
    – jamesqf
    Mar 17, 2017 at 3:46
  • $\begingroup$ @jamesqf: And I went by a FedEx DC-10-10 just this past winter while flying to see family in Massachusetts and back for the holidays... $\endgroup$
    – Vikki
    Apr 21, 2019 at 3:37
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    $\begingroup$ @Sean: I haven't noticed that particular FedEx plane in a while, though, so maybe the question was just a bit prescient :-) $\endgroup$
    – jamesqf
    Apr 22, 2019 at 4:15
  • $\begingroup$ @jamesqf FedEx and UPS bought up all the trijets that the airlines dumped. Since their planes are parked all but a few hours per day, low acquisition cost matters more than high operating cost. $\endgroup$
    – StephenS
    Nov 4, 2020 at 14:34

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The fewer engines an aircraft has, the lower are its operating cost. Engines are the most maintenance-intensive part of an aircraft, and doing a hot section inspection on two large engines costs less than doing it on three somewhat smaller engines.

When the tri-jets were developed, no sufficiently large and powerful engines were available. They were already cheaper to operate than the four-engined aircraft, and too large to have sufficient power with just two. Now, with engines which can deliver a static thrust of more than 100,000 pounds, everything below a Jumbo Jet or an A380 can be powered with just two engines.

Another reason is increased engine reliability: With three or four engines, an engine failure is less of a problem than with just two engines per airplane. Previously, route planning had to keep a maximum distance of 60 flight minutes to a diversion airport. In 1964, this was waived for three-engined aircraft, but twins were still bound to this restriction. With more experience and better engines, this rule has been relaxed for twins gradually to 120 (1985), then 180 (1988), and now 370 (2014) minutes for the Airbus A350 XWB, and twins have become much more versatile for their airlines.

Some of the old tri-jet designs were quite popular with operators: The last Tupolev Tu-154 was built only in 2013. But besides the Dassault Falcon 900 and 7X business jets, I don't know of any trijet which is still in production.

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    $\begingroup$ I think its unlikely we'll ever see single engine passenger jets. You always need redundancy. Anecdote: They call the engine on single engine aircraft "Air conditioners" - when they stop working watch the pilot start to sweat! $\endgroup$
    – Jamiec
    Sep 25, 2015 at 15:53
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    $\begingroup$ Worth mentioning #2 manufacturing (and maintainance - already mentionned) complexity/costs, the larger fan diameter, structural problems (fragile=>strengthened=>heavy), aerodynamic problems mounting an engine on the tail, and the risks it implies in case of a mechanical failure or fire (engine in the middle of critical components of the plane) $\endgroup$ Sep 25, 2015 at 16:47
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    $\begingroup$ @Jamiec Actually, the Caravan is technically a jet. It's a turboprop. For larger transport-category aircraft, I don't think it would even be legal to make a single-engine one. It's rather difficult to continue a takeoff and climb out after a single engine failure when you only have one engine to start with. $\endgroup$
    – reirab
    Sep 25, 2015 at 17:54
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    $\begingroup$ @user1663987 Any twin engine plane needs to be able to fly on only 1 engine. Since the current generation of large passenger jets have glide ratios of ~20:1, being more than ~15 minutes from an airport means that permanent loss of all engines would result in a crash. What's changed over the last few decades is that jet engines have gotten more reliable; making the random loss of two in a short period of time sufficiently less likely that the distance from an airport could be increased without an unacceptable level of risk being taken. $\endgroup$ Sep 25, 2015 at 23:03
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    $\begingroup$ @andrewmh20 You're never more than 240 minutes from an airport on a northern Atlantic route. The flight time from Shannon (Ireland) to Halifax (Canada) is only about 330 minutes, so when you're halfway you're 165 minutes from either airport. The other way is faster. And that's not counting Reykjavik, which is conveniently situated in the middle of the Atlantic. $\endgroup$
    – Mike Scott
    Sep 27, 2015 at 17:20
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The main reason for selecting three engines was reliability issues with gas turbine engines used in the dawn of the jet age. The FAA Operating Requirements §121.161 Airplane limitations: Type of route says,

... no certificate holder may operate a turbine-engine-powered airplane over a route that contains a point—

(1) Farther than a flying time from an Adequate Airport (at a one-engine-inoperative cruise speed under standard conditions in still air) of 60 minutes for a two-engine airplane or 180 minutes for a passenger-carrying airplane with more than two engines

Most of the initial tri-jets were configured for long range operations as twin engined aircraft could not be operated in most transatlantic routes.

However, as the engine reliability has improved, the regulatory authorities have certified a number of twin engined aircraft for ETOPS (Extended Range Twin Engined Operations). As airlines prefer as few engines as possible (which translates into lower upfront and operating costs), tri-jets have become a relic of the past.

Maintaining the third engine on top of the fuselage is a major headache compared to the other two. Also, the placing the third engine has been a design trade-off between aerodynamic efficiency on the one hand and easier installation (and lesser cost) on the other hand.

For the same reasons, we are not seeing any four engined aircraft and every aircraft under development is twin-engined. Also, improvements in engine power (777's GE-90 produces nearly twice the thrust of MD-11's GE CF-6) and fuel economy (today's aircraft burn around 10% less fuel compared to the aircraft from 1980s) mean that the necessary thrust (and range) can be generated by lesser number of engines.

Another (minor) point is that the bypass ratios have increased in the recent decades and this might present difficulties in placement of the center engine.

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    $\begingroup$ +1 for mentioning both maintainance complexity of the #2 engine, and the high bypass nightmare. $\endgroup$ Sep 25, 2015 at 16:43
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    $\begingroup$ I don't know about the airliners, but the third engine on the Falcon business jets are actually in line with the two fuselage mounted engines (and they use the same S-duct technology that was licensed from Boeing so I assume that it is similar) and are maintained not from above, but from below just like the other two. $\endgroup$
    – Lnafziger
    Sep 25, 2015 at 17:48
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Other (great) answers have already covered most reasons.

On Business Jets side, you can do this : http://www.airteamimages.com/dassault-falcon-7x_CS-DTS_masterjet_176224.html

But not that often with airliners. :P

Well, joking put aside...

Cost:

A third (or second) engine on/below the tail adds specific parts/components, that have to be manufactured, maintained, and spare parts have to be made available for the entire lifetime of the type. Just like the reason why "eyebrows" were removed from the 737 line, and not a single airliner has purchased the 777 with folding wings (and the idea dropped on A380-like projects), reducing costs is a relevant reason to not manufacture "special" parts whenever possible. Best sellers are aircraft that are cheap to handle and maintain. If you can use larger engines to get two instead of three, then...

Similar reasons for unmounting the #2 engine. On a relatively small jet, you can unmount the engine just like it was on the Boeing 727. However, to make that possible with engines the class (and size) of a GE90, you need strengthened structures (increased weight: bad!) around the tail cone, special lifters, a tail cone large enough to contain that engine, compliant with regulation in case of a fan blade failure. Hydraulics and other electrical wiring must be secured. That adds many more special components that have to be checked for airworthiness on a regular basis. When your aircraft is stuck at an airport without the appropriate equipment, you must ferry them there, with the replacement engine. Cost!

It's highly unlikely we'll see a tail mounted engine on airliners the size of a 777 in the future.

Noises and vibrations:

Small engines are OK. Large engines not that much. Even with the incredible progress we have made in reducing engine noise, vibrations are still a major factor, and engine pylons are the best way we have to reduce them. A tail mounted engine doesn't really have a pylon.

Aerodynamics:

Brutally pitching up the aircraft can reduce or disturb the #2 engine intake airflow, with sometimes noticeable issues. This is a major concern for pilots operating on hot and high conditions. This also happens during stall and deep stall. Tail mounted engines requires larger or extra tail surfaces to stabilize the aircraft and reduce drag (weight + more parts to maintain)

Aircraft behaviour:

When the engines are not mounted in line with the other two (DC10/MD11, Tristar), the center engine produces some specific pitching behaviours depending on loading, thrust and flight phases. It's worse in the case of one inoperative engine. While this behaviour has saved the life of many in the past, it was also a factor in some crashes or close calls.

Related: aircraft behaviour varies greatly between a short version of the frame to a longer one. Stretching a three engined aircraft requires much more research, development and testing than a twin engine one. Having optimized types meeting airlines requirements in your catalog is not that easy with three engined aircraft.

Safety concerns:

In the case of a component failing at a high rotation speed, a fuel leak, or a fire, mounting the engine in the fuselage is obviously not the most seducing option. The not so distant Qantas A380, Air Transat A330, Concorde in Gonnesse... Fighting a fire on the engine #2 of a Tristar is not the same as fighting the fire on the BA 777 at Las Vegas.

You can't conduct a fan blade overview upon walk around on engine #2.

Reengining:

You can create new nacelles for more powerful, quieter and more fuel saving engines for a 737 (100/200 > Classics > NG > Max > ...) or an A32x (Neo), avoiding the need to develop an entirely new air frame. Reengining the 727 had mitigated results. All KC135 have been reengined and the 747 with the 8I/F. A330 and 777s... Going from the DC10 to the final version of the MD11 (which is basically a reengined and stretched DC10) wasn't that easy. Many retrofits were made available several years after the MD11 entered commercial service. As we don't clearly know what the future is made of, a three engined aircraft may fail to comply with future technologies, which disallows lengthening the lifetime of the type, unless designed from the start to be upgraded, like the Falcon 7X (larger/heavier versions in the plans).


However, having three engines is not a bad thing. It all depends on the purpose of the aircraft. One extra engine can reduce take off roll, allow the selection of smaller and quieter engines (in some rare cases), increase ETOPS certification, give access to hot and high airports, etc. If those reasons are relevant enough to cancel the extra cost required by the extra engine, then you can manufacture a three engined aircraft (or a six engined, like the An225).

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    $\begingroup$ I assume the pitching the aircraft up would disrupt air flow to engine 2 because of the massive body in the way? $\endgroup$
    – codedude
    Sep 26, 2015 at 0:55
  • $\begingroup$ +1 for pointing out the weight disadvantage of rear mounted engines. $\endgroup$ Sep 26, 2015 at 7:02
  • $\begingroup$ @codedude: Sorry, I missed your question. That's more or less that but you're correct. Aerodynamics (fluid flow) is a complex science (I don't master at all) Not only the body interferes, but also the wings (root) and whatever shape in the way. Plus, wind direction and gusts matter (not always facing aircraft), but we'll end with an even longer answer. Brutal pitching are rare, but do happens from time to time. Pilots are well trained on the type they're qualified to handle them at critical phases like take off and landing. (Thanks FreeMan for the edit -english is my third tongue) $\endgroup$ Sep 29, 2015 at 12:09
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    $\begingroup$ No problem, Karl. Your English is better than many American's for whom it's an only language. $\endgroup$
    – FreeMan
    Sep 29, 2015 at 15:22
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First of all, the L-1011 had a fourth hydraulic system compared to the DC-10/MD-11 which only had three.

Secondly, the L-1011 was a fantastic aircraft which had design input from Kelly Johnson, the man who brought us the SR 71 Blackbird and the F-104 Star Fighter.

The L-1011 was by far the superior aircraft and had capabilities that have since only been met for an aircraft of its size by the 777. It could even land itself.

What hurt the L-1011 was the financial failure of Rolls Royce that delayed the aircraft's entry into the market by a year. It never recovered from the orders lost to the DC-10 by AA and United who were desperate to get a tri-jet into their fleets.

The engines couldn't be changed because the Rolls Royce RB-211 was specifically designed for the L-1011's center engine housing and nothing else would fit, and there wasn't time for a redesign, retest, and re-certification. Fortunately the British government bailed out Rolls Royce so that the engines were eventually built and delivered.

The final straw for the DC-10 was the crash in Chicago, though technically an AA maintenance failure, the DC-10 was poorly designed and rushed into the marketplace to take advantage of the L-1011's delay. Not another DC-10 was ordered after that incident, and the MD-11 was simply a repackaged version of the same problem aircraft, made of composite materials and more fuel efficient or so everyone thought until it went into service. Another white elephant.

Standard on the Tri-Star was a co-pilot stick shaker, an extra cost option on the DC-10, as well as automatic electrical bus relays which transferred load from a dead engine to a live one, standard on the L-1011 and an option on DC-10, and finally the front slats on the L-10 mechanically locked into place once hydraulically extended, something not offered on the DC-10, which is why AA 191 crashed. Had this been an L-1011, that accident would not have occurred.

The final death knell for the Tri-Star was that Lockheed simply wanted out of the commercial aircraft marketplace so that it could focus on military contracts.

Boeing had no reason to offer a Tri-jet as it developed the long and short versions of the 747. In fact, the Tri-jets were a design competition between Douglas and Lockheed based on American Airlines criteria which initially ordered the L-10, but switched to the DC-10 after Rolls Royce went into bankruptcy.

As for the 727, never intended to be more than it was, an aircraft capable of short ETOPS, mostly to the Caribbean or Hawaii.

Ask any pilot who had flown both the Tri-Star and the DC-10 as to which he preferred and you'll find that almost all will pick the Lockheed.

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    – codedude
    Mar 16, 2016 at 22:53
  • $\begingroup$ Actually, Boeing did consider making a trijet version of the 747, which would have used an S-duct (like the L-1011) and would have been designated as the 747-300 (no relation to the 747-300 that was actually built), but abandoned the concept without going past the drawing board. $\endgroup$
    – Vikki
    May 25, 2018 at 14:28
  • $\begingroup$ Couldn't agree more on the differences between the TriStar and the DC-10. There is another difference: While the hydraulic lines on the DC-10 went through the rear pressure bulkhead all at the same spot (making the UA 232 accident possible), they were routed in the TriStar in three different places (left, right and bottom, which is standard for military designs). $\endgroup$ Feb 1, 2020 at 17:33
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The major reason for going away from trijet was a series of total hydraulic failures following an uncontained engine failure. This happened in both the L1011 and the MD-10 (but not the 727)

When an engine failed, high speed debris from the failed engine would cut the hydraulic system and control cables. The result was an airplane without conventional controls. For the most part the result was a total loss. In the case of the Souix City event, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232

four pilots were able to land the plane (almost) and the resulting crash only killed about 1/3 of the passengers.

Not a good idea, three engines.

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    $\begingroup$ Can you explain further what about how the engine in the tail is worse in this situation than the two on the wings? $\endgroup$
    – fooot
    Sep 30, 2015 at 21:16
  • $\begingroup$ In short, because the engine is embedded in the tail, a "blade-out" failure is going to damage the tail. Engines in nacelles have some built-in shock absorption inherent in the nacelle mounting, so first they're better able to contain debris because the nacelle can move to help the containment shroud "catch" the parts of the disintegrating turbine, and second when the nacelle moves it isn't overstressing the entire wing like a tail-mounted engine would stress the empennage. $\endgroup$
    – KeithS
    Oct 1, 2015 at 0:35
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    $\begingroup$ Perhaps should deserve an upvote for the explanation, if it were to be included in the answer itself. A turbine desintegration is not a 0% chance (whatever the cause: metal fatigue, overheat, overspin, inhaled foreign debris..) Engines naceles mounted on pylons doesn't decrease risk of failure, but do decrease risk of hitting critical components like hydraulic pipes upon desintegration (surface probability, the farther the critical components...) It's also a better way to delay damages inflicted by sustained fire on an engine. However, those concerns were already raised above. $\endgroup$ Oct 2, 2015 at 12:42
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    $\begingroup$ "The major reason for..." - unlikely ! Major concerns are those airlines have to handle on a daily basis : cost, reliability, and efficiency. See most upvoted answer. Turned in a crude way, airlines do care for safety, but not a the cost of mere gain, when competition is fierce. Otherwise, we would still have much more four engined aircraft around; even long range cargo has become twin engined. In a way, the tail mounted engines involved in disasters is just a contributing factor. We still have a lot of rear mounted engines near critical components that doesn't lead to that much crashes. $\endgroup$ Oct 2, 2015 at 12:56
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Several new supersonic transport (SST) planes in development are using a tri-jet configuration. In the previous generation of SST airplanes, such as the Concorde or the Tupolev Tu-144 required four engines. The new generation is pairing down by one or two engines for flight.

Boom Overature

The Boom Overture will feature three Rolls-Royce/Snecma Olympus 593 engines. I assume because they could not get enough thrust from two engines and hit Mach 2.2. Another SST, the Spike S-512 is being developed with only two engines, but will have a maximum speed of Mach 1.8. The Overture is planning to enter service in 2029.

Other three-engine planes in development include The Sukhoi-Gulfstream S-21 (development has stalled) and the Aerion AS2.

I would agree with other answers regarding the simplicity of two-engine designs. I just wanted to share this to show three-engine planes are still being developed.

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