I am not a pilot, but have a question about radar detection of improvised lawn chair balloons that I thought might be on-topic here.

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This BBC news article describes a marketing stunt gone awry involving a lawn chair, a large number of multicolored helium balloons, and the owner/operator/parachutist

According to the article, he was charged with "mischief causing danger to life".

A similar stunt by American truck driver Lawrence Richard Walters, nicknamed "Lawnchair Larry" or the "Lawn Chair Pilot" also resulted in fines and legal action. In that case, the government dropped the fine for "operating a civil aircraft for which there is not currently in effect an airworthiness certificate" because it was not applicable to that type of aircraft. The article also mentions some other attempts to fly lawn chair balloons, including a fatality from crashing at sea.

My question is whether such an improvised manned balloon would be visible on typical airport radar or the independent radar/collision-avoidance systems operated on board large modern passenger aircraft, and thus avoidable.

A 1970s military research paper on radar supporting the need for secondary transponders in detecting light aircraft also mentions detecting doppler from propellers (p.4) in addition to the primary radar reflection, and I would expect the cross section of a lawn chair to perhaps be within an order of magnitude of that of a propeller. A 2m x 0.5m x 0.5m sparsely filled aluminum chair frame is also still larger than typical microwave radar wavelengths (1Ghz = 30cm wavelength, most radars are going to be above 1Ghz), so it should reflect the radar but of course is a fairly small object compared to large aircraft and therefore the detection range could be lower.

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    $\begingroup$ "homemade lawn chair balloon" -- is there any other kind? $\endgroup$ Commented Jul 11, 2015 at 10:10

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Would a homemade lawn chair balloon be visible on ATC and collision avoidance radar?

It might be visible to ATC, but, at best, only as one of several inconspicuous unidentified red dots.

It wouldn't appear on aircraft collision avoidance displays (TCAS) and would not trigger any TCAS alerts.

Radar cross section

Balloons, and clusters of balloons are mostly air (or similarly insubstantial gas). There is a thin layer of plastic but many plastic materials (e.g. mylar) are transparent to radar, or only weakly reflective.

It is for this reason that aerostats and high altitude balloons carry radar-reflectors when they need to be detected by radar.

Whether the chair itself has a detectable radar cross section depends partly on what materials it is constructed from. I suspect most available lawn chairs are not constructed from solid sheets of metal fixed at right angles but, at best, from a relatively tiny amount of relatively small-gauge metal tubing.

I'd be surprised if any improvised lawn-chair balloon had the same radar cross-section as a glider - and those are allegedly hard to see on primary radar.

Some helium balloons are made from metallised mylar (because it keeps the helium in for longer). These may be much more reflective to radar. The Calgary aviator pictured was said to have used "oversized party balloons" - they don't look like the metallised balloons that are commonplace where I live.

A perfectly conducting metal sphere of 1.15m diameter has a radar cross section of 1 m²

Some other radar cross section values:

Human: 1 m²
small combat aircraft: 2–3 m²
Cargo aircraft: up to 100 m²

This suggests that military radar might display a return to an operator. A civilian primary radar might be less likely to display a return to an operator.

Primary radar

So far as I can tell, most civilian ATC and powered aircraft (TCAS etc) don't really make much use of primary radar to detect other airborne vehicles. They rely on transponder returns (i.e. secondary radar)

Even a large metal object like a Boeing 777 can disappear from the view of ATC and other aircraft when it turns off its transponder.

The Guardian newspaper reported

Last month, the Swedish government complained that a Russian military aircraft had been flying near its airspace with its transponders turned off to avoid being spotted by civilian radar, and nearly collided with a passenger jet.

I'd be surprised if an improvised lawn-chair balloon was detectable where a Tu-95 was not.

What ATC see

This is from what is said to be a radar recording of flight 77 (at 4:18) probably at Dulles after controllers were aware of the prior 9/11 attacks.

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Flight 77 had turned off its transponder, it is one of the small red dots at the left. Here's a closer look at that

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Flight 77 is the red dot about 20% in and up from bottom left. There are other red dots that come and go but this one tracks steadily from left to right. I'd guess an especially alert controller who is not very busy would notice this sort of dot. Even if the radar display doesn't filter it out, unannounced slow-moving lawn-chair balloons appearing from the suburbs might not always be noticed (though see James' comment to Peter's answer which suggests they often do notice and act on such targets).


Radios and transponders designed for hot-air balloons are available (example) and I've read that

Transponders are mandatory for flights in some types of airspace in many parts of Europe from March 2008 onwards. This includes balloons and other light / recreational aviation and aircraft.

So I suspect that authorities will expect aviators in lighter-than air vehicles will take appropriate measures to be in communication with ATC/other aircraft and perhaps to be visible to secondary radar in airspace where they may come into conflict with other aircraft.

Kevin Walsh

Heres a news report from The Milwaukee Sentinel - Jul 19, 1984

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Snopes reports

He had wrapped his tether lines in foil in the hope that they would show up on radar, and, sure enough, he was picked up on the screens of controllers at Boston's Logan airport

So you probably need to take specific measures to make yourself more likely to show up on primary radar.


When attaching balloons to your lawn chair, first scrutinize the intertubes for designs for large improvised radar reflectors you can dangle from your vehicle. Hope that nearby on-duty ATC controllers have their displays set to show primary radar returns and not just secondary radar returns.

  • $\begingroup$ Although mylar itself is an insulator, mylar balloons can be metal plated, often causing power outages and sparks when they land on uninsulated electrical power lines. A conductive metal plated balloon should also be radar reflective, as because of skin effect the interior doesn't matter. I can't tell which kind of balloons are shown. see also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Balloon_Law $\endgroup$
    – Paul
    Commented Jul 9, 2015 at 8:54
  • $\begingroup$ @Paul: good point, I'll update my answer. $\endgroup$ Commented Jul 9, 2015 at 9:34
  • $\begingroup$ Re: cluster balloons and transponders: at least one balloonist has flown with a transponder and ATC radios. Modern transponders are pretty efficient, you could power one on a typical balloon flight with a small battery (it's just a question of making sure the antenna is properly mounted). $\endgroup$
    – voretaq7
    Commented Jul 9, 2015 at 17:18
  • $\begingroup$ The balloons in the picture appear to be latex balloons - mylar (metallized or otherwise) balloons typically have a different shape and visible seams. $\endgroup$
    – Random832
    Commented Jul 9, 2015 at 17:36
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    $\begingroup$ Thanks for the ATC pictures and secondary sources. I wonder if there are any primary sources commenting on any of these crazy flights. I'm not sure what to make of the military plane fiasco, as it is strategically wise to perhaps be a little dishonest about national defenses and say you couldn't see something when you did, etc... $\endgroup$
    – Paul
    Commented Jul 10, 2015 at 18:50

Primary radars are sensitive enough to pick up even large birds. A lawnchair ballon would certainly register if the settings allow. To suppress the signals from birds and other non-aircraft objects, a minimum speed is required for primary radars to show a blip to the controller. Since the lawnchair is moving with the wind, it will be filtered out, unless the settings are changed, but then a lot of other signals will show up, too. To identify a lawnchair balloon will be almost impossible - the radar would need to track the ballon and distinguish it from birds due to the different, steady motion. I doubt that there is any such algorithm in regular use today.

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    $\begingroup$ Yes, I've had this happen several times, with ATC notifying me of a target at such & such bearing & distance, and then seeing birds, or a hang glider, which I suppose isn't that much different than a lawn chair - just tubing & fabric. $\endgroup$
    – jamesqf
    Commented Jul 9, 2015 at 17:35

My question is whether such an improvised manned balloon would be visible on typical airport radar or the independent radar/collision-avoidance systems operated on board large modern passenger aircraft, and thus avoidable.

Would it show up as a primary radar target? Yes, it could. Primary radar would however rather see the whole bunch of balloons rather than the chair, so it would create a primary target. Primary radar sometimes picks up flocks of birds, too.

Would it show up on TCAS or FLARM? No, as TCAS and FLARM are based on radio signals being broadcast and received between the devices, either transponder or other TCAS, or in the case of FLARM, other aircraft equipped with FLARM. Neither of these devices pick up airborne objects that do not emit signals.

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    $\begingroup$ almost certainly the balloons will show up on a radar as a much smaller target than a flock of birds, if they are detectable at all (unless the balloons are metallic) -- spheres generally have a small radar cross section, and latex balloons are made of a non-conductive material, which neither absorbs nor reflects electromagnetic waves of radar wavelengths well at all. $\endgroup$ Commented Jul 10, 2015 at 16:48

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