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I've occasionally read about pilots being locked out of the cockpit in flight, and was wondering:

Why might a pilot leave the cockpit during a short flight (1-2 hours)?

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    $\begingroup$ And when you read about pilots being locked out of the cockpit, the article didn't mention why they'd left? $\endgroup$ – David Richerby Mar 26 '15 at 22:03
  • $\begingroup$ Just from a human standpoint: You have to pee, when you have to pee. While the bladder reached a regular "time interval", "much liquied" (everybody should drink on a plane due dry air or you become easily sick), "being nervous" or because your bladder doesn't work normally (ill). Furthermore like all humans a crew needs to stand up and move their feet (again, it healthy and keeps awake) and chat a little bit with the crew. As passanger I would appreciate to see that the pilots have a little bit contact to the rest of humanity on the plane :) $\endgroup$ – Peter Jan 29 '16 at 13:10
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The cockpit of some airliners lacks a lavatory.

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Cockpit layout from AviationKnowledge.wikidot


This is discussed in Skybrary: Flight Deck Security

Locked Door Flight Safety Issues
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Physiological Need. Naturally, the need for flight crew to use toilets, access designated crew rest facilities or be supplied with food and drink, requires access through the flight deck door during flight. Procedures for door opening mean that egress and access will take longer with the result that the flight deck crew are not always able to go to the toilet at a time of their exact choice, which may cause them to be distracted and, exceptionally, might exacerbate an existing underlying medical issue in a way that would not otherwise have occurred.
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Longer term, design change could also ensure that all operating flight crew should be secured on the flight-deck before the passenger boarding doors are closed prior to departure and remain secured on the flight-deck until after the passenger doors are opened at the destination. This would prevent any unlawful entry from the cabin and minimise any unlawful seizure by a single flight crew member.
To enable this, existing aircraft could be modified and new aircraft designed with all required crew facilities forward of the secure flight-deck door. On short/medium haul aircraft this would require a toilet, safe food & water storage and a reclining crew rest seat. Additionally on aircraft used for long range operations where in-flight relief is required provision of bunk/s. This is not a new concept, many long range aircraft already have toilet and crew rest facilities forward of the secure flight-deck door.

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    $\begingroup$ Do you have to pee in a 90 min. flight? $\endgroup$ – Juan Mateo Mar 26 '15 at 20:02
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    $\begingroup$ @JuanMateo no, but you probably have to pee sometime during the day, and with the short turnaround times, I'm pretty sure there's no chance to do so on the ground $\endgroup$ – falstro Mar 26 '15 at 20:10
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    $\begingroup$ When you've gotta go you've gotta go, and I'd much rather have a pilot who can fully concentrate on landing the plane than one who's trying to hold it in. $\endgroup$ – BenM Mar 26 '15 at 20:14
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    $\begingroup$ 90 min is a wrong assumption. First, the flight was 2h20' long, second there are pre-flight and post-flight duties, that would make it longer. $\endgroup$ – Quora Feans Mar 26 '15 at 22:31
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    $\begingroup$ @JuanMateo middle of a flight would probably be the best time to take a pee, since on the ground in pre-flight and post-flight duties the pilots are busy, but while the plane is cruising on a straight path then there's practically nothing to do and a single pilot can easily handle it - I mean, it's the appropriate time for pilots to take a nap in longer trips. $\endgroup$ – Peteris Mar 27 '15 at 15:07
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The FAA provides the following reasons for which a pilot is allowed to leave their assigned duty station (i.e. their seat in the flight deck) in 14 CFR §121.543 Flight crewmembers at controls:

(b) A required flight crewmember may leave the assigned duty station—

(1) If the crewmember's absence is necessary for the performance of duties in connection with the operation of the aircraft;

(2) If the crewmember's absence is in connection with physiological needs; or

(3) If the crewmember is taking a rest period, and relief is provided—

Case #3 generally applies only to long-haul flights where one or two relief pilots will alternate duty with the initial pilots, allowing each of them to have a rest period.

Europe's EASA has similar regulations. See CAT.OP.MPA.210 in this document (on pages 101-102).

CAT.OP.MPA.210 Crew members at stations

(a) Flight crew members

(1) During take-off and landing each flight crew member required to be on duty in the flight crew compartment shall be at the assigned station.

(2) During all other phases of flight each flight crew member required to be on duty in the flight crew compartment shall remain at the assigned station, unless absence is necessary for the performance of duties in connection with the operation or for physiological needs, provided at least one suitably qualified pilot remains at the controls of the aircraft at all times.


So, in summary, a pilot can leave the flight deck on short flights if:

1) The pilot needs to go to the bathroom.

2) The pilot needs to perform some action relevant to flying the plane (such as going to the back to physically inspect some part of the plane, like in QF32 or United 811.)

Related question whose answers also mentions these regs: Are two people required in the cockpit at all times on large commercial aircraft?

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  • $\begingroup$ Might want to at least link to the question where this is info is also used. $\endgroup$ – fooot Mar 26 '15 at 20:34
  • $\begingroup$ @fooot Honestly, I was trying to decide whether to vote dupe close on this one. However, those answer really answer this question, but not the one they're posted on, so I wasn't really sure how to address that. Nevertheless, I'll add a link. $\endgroup$ – reirab Mar 26 '15 at 20:37
  • $\begingroup$ Well those regulations don't totally answer whether a second crew member is required at all times (just that it's not in the general operating rules), but they don't provide all the exact reasons a pilot may leave the cockpit either. Thanks for adding the link. $\endgroup$ – fooot Mar 26 '15 at 20:51

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