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So I'm pretty familiar (as a pax, not a pilot) with weather and its impacts at SFO, where low ceilings or the wrong winds play havoc with the schedule. You can't shoot parallel approaches in sub-VFR conditions, and you have crossing traffic in the middle of the field, all that good stuff. It's way less obvious to me and/or I'm less clueful as to why this impacts a single-runway operation like San Diego (KSAN).

KSAN has a single east-west runway, and I don't think I've ever deparated or arrived on 09, it's always runway 27. But when the fog/marine layer lingers into the morning at SAN, things get delayed and backed up. This seems a LITTLE odd to me, because I would have expected that all of these arrivals and departures are instrument anyway, and they're all going the same direction, and there aren't any other (at least major) airports in the immediate vicinity... so why is there reduced throughput when the clouds stick around through the late morning?

I have to assume that somewhere there's a weather threshold where you have to increase the separation for takeoffs and/or landings? If so what is that threshold and why (again if it's all instrument operations anyway?)

I'm quite sure there are good reasons, I just can't figure them out intuitively and don't know the regs well enough to know where to look. ;)

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References will be to FAA JO 7110.65, the "ATC Bible" which tells us how to work airplanes.

Arrivals

The baseline standard for aircraft separation is 3NM lateral (5–5–4b) or 1000' vertical (4–5–1a). When aircraft are on final approach they're descending to the runway and you can't use vertical, only 3NM in-trail.

At some airports succeeding aircraft on final may be permitted to reduce to 2.5NM provided certain conditions are met (5–5–4i).

However, in good weather ATC may use visual separation (7–2–1) in lieu of standard radar separation. If visual separation is used then the only thing remaining is same-runway separation: For turbojet aircraft, the #1 lander has to be "clear of the runway" before the #2 lander is over the runway threshold (3–10–3a1). Depending on aircraft speeds, the existence of high-speed runway exits, etc, this can translate to as little as 2NM separation when the #1 lander is at the threshold. Sometimes even less if the #2 guy slows waaaaay down.

Departures

Again, the baseline is 3NM separation. But if aircraft are assigned courses which diverge by at least 15º this can be reduced to 1NM (5–8–3a). If both are flying RNAV SIDs only 10º divergence is required (5–8–3c).

If visual separation is used then same-runway separation for two departures will be (if both are turbojet aircraft) 6000'-and-airborne (3–9–6a). Note that 6000' is one nautical mile anyway.

Departure-and-Arrival

Now things get really interesting. This is where the major delays start happening, and this is where an airport with parallel runways has a huge advantage over a single-runway airport.

The "normal" procedure is for ATC to provide visual separation between the arrival and the preceding departure. The only thing ATC has to do is ensure same-runway separation which (again for turbojets) is 6000'-and-airborne when the arrival reaches the landing threshold (3–10–3a2).

Depending on the types of aircraft involved, the speeds on final, braking action on the runway, etc, etc, the Tower will generally need somewhere around a 3.5- or a 4-mile gap between arrivals in order to safely get a departure out while maintaining 6000'-and-airborne. More will be needed if the departing aircraft is a heavy A330; less will be needed if the departure is a Lear 75. But broadly speaking 4NM is a good safe gap; nobody in the tower cab will sit up and start making concerned comments if you issue a line-up-and-wait instruction when an arrival is four miles out.

But if ATC cannot provide visual then the rule is, again, 3NM separation at all times. Actually there is yet another rule: separation may be decreased to 2NM at the time the departure starts rolling, if it will increase to 3NM within one minute after takeoff (5–8–4). Even so, this is twice the required separation in the visual scenario: 12000' instead of 6000'.

Again I want to be clear that there are a lot of different variables. But as a rule of thumb, when the visual is not available and we need to ensure "2 increasing to 3" separation we need a gap that is about 1NM more than usual. Perhaps a little less. So now instead of 4NM between arrivals we need 4.8 or 5NM.

This is why an airport like SFO can be much more efficient than SAN. At SAN you have to wait until the #1 arrival has reached the runway before putting the departure in position, and you have to wait to issue the takeoff clearance until that arrival has cleared the runway. At SFO you can put the departure in position on the parallel at any time and then clear them as soon as the #1 arrival has touched down.

That means Approach can keep sending the arrivals in at minimum spacing and Tower is still able to launch departures.


Edit: ODO

There is a delay program into SAN again tonight, and reading the advisory I see that they are running Opposite-Direction Operations. These come with another set of stringent separation requirements (JO 7210.3 2–1–38), which will generally be: the departure has to be established in a turn that will prevent conflict before the arrival reaches a ten-mile final.

That is a very onerous requirement if there's any kind of volume at all. They are mitigating it somewhat by bringing in a bunch of arrivals to Runway 9, then holding arrivals (or vectoring them) to create a large gap in order to get several departures off Runway 27. But even with that mitigation their arrival rate is severely reduced: If they're using the same runway for arrivals and departures they can work 24 inbounds per hour while still getting departures out, even down to Low IMC when using Runway 9. But when they are running ODO the rate goes down to 16 per hour.

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  • $\begingroup$ This is an astonishingly good set of answers. $\endgroup$
    – ljwobker
    Commented Oct 6 at 21:14
  • $\begingroup$ I don't know about the local situation at KSAN, but usually if the ceiling & visibility are low, the airport needs to support ILS CAT II or CAT III operations, instead of only CAT I. For CAT II and CAT III operations, the ILS sensitive areas need to be free of obstacles to make sure the ILS signal is not disturbed. In Europe, we have an ICAO guideline that recommends that the separation should be increased to enable the landing aircraft to clear the runway and ILS localizer sensitive area before the following aircraft reaches a point 4 NM from touchdown. This is a major driver of delays in LVP $\endgroup$
    – DeltaLima
    Commented Oct 8 at 13:31
  • $\begingroup$ This also means that it is even harder to squeeze a departure in between landings, because it disturbs the ILS localiser signal. To see what can happen if one attempts a fully coupled ILS Cat III landing without signal protection in place, see this answer, and this video $\endgroup$
    – DeltaLima
    Commented Oct 8 at 13:37
  • $\begingroup$ CAT I gets you pretty darn low @DeltaLima. Conditions below 200-1/2 are not super common. One thing that is relatively common is conditions below 800-2 which is when ATC has to protect the LOC/GS critical areas when an aircraft is inside the outer marker... but there are exceptions for aircraft actually using the runway to depart or arrive. They generally try to place the GS antenna so that the critical area is on the less-used side of the airfield but that may not always be possible. Bottom line: You're right, this can be yet another reason why spacing on final needs to be greater. $\endgroup$
    – randomhead
    Commented Oct 8 at 22:20
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Having suffered through morning departure delays at KSAN, I can say I wouldn't wish it on anyone. The issue is worst when the fog rolls in around 5-6 pm the day before. That stops arrivals when the visibility and ceilings are below minimums. Since no one arrived in the evening, there's no aircraft to depart until the fog clears enough for morning arrivals.

The issue as you noted is that the prevailing winds are off the ocean, so RWY 27 is pretty much the norm. The problem is the rising terrain east of the airport means there's no ILS for RWY 27, only a LOC/DME or RNAV/GPS approach. Looking at the approach plates for RWY 27, you'll see the minimums are 700 feet and 1 3/4 miles visibility. When the fog rolls in, 300 ft and 1/2 mile are not uncommon. When that happens, the airlines just have to wait it out.

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    $\begingroup$ They were landing RWY 09 last night... the ILS Z has minimums of 200-1/2. There were still EDCTs with four or five hours' worth of delay. $\endgroup$
    – randomhead
    Commented Oct 4 at 17:36
  • $\begingroup$ @randomhead That helps get the planes in when the wind allows for it. But if you're not waiting for a plane to arrive, 5 hour departure delays are probably due to conditions elsewhere in the system. Since the FAA expanded the SWIM concepts, you could be on ground hold for an issue at your destination or anywhere along the route. Here in FL, when ZJX gets saturated due to a line of thunderstorms, everyone in central and south FL is stuck if you're headed north. $\endgroup$
    – Gerry
    Commented Oct 5 at 18:58
  • $\begingroup$ This GDP is not a Flow Control Area like you see at ZJX, it is specifically targeted due to demand (and operational constraints) at a single airport. $\endgroup$
    – randomhead
    Commented Oct 6 at 2:00

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