Let'sLet’s suppose I wish to fly an IFR flight from KTUS (Tucson International Airport) to KFST (Fort Stockton-Pecos) for example. Given the surrounding terrain there is of course an ODP whichan ODP that reads the following as follows:
DEPARTURE PROCEDURE: Rwys 3, 29L/R, climbing right turn direct to TUS VORTAC...
Rwy 21, climbing left turn direct to TUS VORTAC ...
Rwy 11L/R, climb heading 123° to 4000 then climbing left turn direct TUS VORTAC ...
... Climb in TUS VORTAC holding pattern (hold NW, right turns, 128° inbound) to 9000 before proceeding on course.
DEPARTURE PROCEDURE: Rwys 3, 29L/R, climbing right turn direct to TUS VORTAC …
Rwy 21, climbing left turn direct to TUS VORTAC …
Rwy 11L/R, climb heading 123° to 4000 then climbing left turn direct TUS VORTAC …
... Climb in TUS VORTAC holding pattern (hold NW, right turns, 128° inbound) to 9000 before proceeding on course.
That'sThat’s a pretty long departure procedure especially with the temperatures this time of year but it makes perfect sense due to the terrain.
Now since I expect the weather to be CAVOK until the MSA, I would prefer to do a VFR climb-out. In this case, would I present myself as a regular VFR traffic to clearance, ground and tower frequencies and request IFR once at MSA to Center ? Or, or would I request an IFR clearance on ground and addingadd the request for VFR climb-out up to the MSA ?