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We have had moremore... thanthan... oneone question about jet aircraft taxiing about the airport without their jet engines running. Those address several issues such as cost vs savings and regulatory approval.

My question assumes that an in-wheel electric motor, tug or even pull-chainpull-chain based solution has been developed, certified, deemed cost-effective and installed.

Let's say that I am now sitting on the taxi-way and am 5th in line for take off. It's time to fire up those jets so they can warm up and we can get the beast into the air. According to this question about how turbine engines are startedhow turbine engines are started, it appears that I'm going to need some sort of ground-based support to get the N2 stage spinning. That question indicates that a couple of early, WWII era, jet engines had a built in motor that could get the turbines spinning fast enough for a start, but it seems to me that any modern commercial air-carrier grade engine will need some sort of external help to fire up. I suppose if there was a tug that had pulled me to this point, it could have the support infrastructure built in to get the turbines spinning, but any sort of self- (or ground-) propelled system would seem to lack that.

Now that we're nowhere near the terminal, how the heck are we going to start the engines?

I realize that this question is somewhat speculative in nature, but I believe it could be answered based on some existing or in-development ability (that I'm not aware of) to start an engine without ground support. It could also be my misunderstanding that ground support is not required to start a modern commercial aircraft engine (GE90, RR Trent series, LEAP etc.)

We have had more... than... one question about jet aircraft taxiing about the airport without their jet engines running. Those address several issues such as cost vs savings and regulatory approval.

My question assumes that an in-wheel electric motor, tug or even pull-chain based solution has been developed, certified, deemed cost-effective and installed.

Let's say that I am now sitting on the taxi-way and am 5th in line for take off. It's time to fire up those jets so they can warm up and we can get the beast into the air. According to this question about how turbine engines are started, it appears that I'm going to need some sort of ground-based support to get the N2 stage spinning. That question indicates that a couple of early, WWII era, jet engines had a built in motor that could get the turbines spinning fast enough for a start, but it seems to me that any modern commercial air-carrier grade engine will need some sort of external help to fire up. I suppose if there was a tug that had pulled me to this point, it could have the support infrastructure built in to get the turbines spinning, but any sort of self- (or ground-) propelled system would seem to lack that.

Now that we're nowhere near the terminal, how the heck are we going to start the engines?

I realize that this question is somewhat speculative in nature, but I believe it could be answered based on some existing or in-development ability (that I'm not aware of) to start an engine without ground support. It could also be my misunderstanding that ground support is not required to start a modern commercial aircraft engine (GE90, RR Trent series, LEAP etc.)

We have had more... than... one question about jet aircraft taxiing about the airport without their jet engines running. Those address several issues such as cost vs savings and regulatory approval.

My question assumes that an in-wheel electric motor, tug or even pull-chain based solution has been developed, certified, deemed cost-effective and installed.

Let's say that I am now sitting on the taxi-way and am 5th in line for take off. It's time to fire up those jets so they can warm up and we can get the beast into the air. According to this question about how turbine engines are started, it appears that I'm going to need some sort of ground-based support to get the N2 stage spinning. That question indicates that a couple of early, WWII era, jet engines had a built in motor that could get the turbines spinning fast enough for a start, but it seems to me that any modern commercial air-carrier grade engine will need some sort of external help to fire up. I suppose if there was a tug that had pulled me to this point, it could have the support infrastructure built in to get the turbines spinning, but any sort of self- (or ground-) propelled system would seem to lack that.

Now that we're nowhere near the terminal, how the heck are we going to start the engines?

I realize that this question is somewhat speculative in nature, but I believe it could be answered based on some existing or in-development ability (that I'm not aware of) to start an engine without ground support. It could also be my misunderstanding that ground support is not required to start a modern commercial aircraft engine (GE90, RR Trent series, LEAP etc.)

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Is starting up ana jet engine without ground support possible?

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Is taxiing to take-offstarting up an engine without jet power feasibleground support possible?

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