Timeline for How am I supposed to track to KOSAX on the OLIVI 4W out of EDFM?
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| Sep 15, 2015 at 8:48 | vote | accept | falstro | ||
| Feb 24, 2015 at 8:22 | history | edited | falstro | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 23, 2015 at 23:36 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackAviation/status/570004370923892737 | ||
| Feb 23, 2015 at 19:56 | comment | added | Radu094 | If you are using BRNAV I think it's fair to say you are not dead-reckoning. There was a 10 or 15 mile limitation on DR for non (B)RNAV procedures, just using classic VOR/DMEs; I just can't find any reference about it anymore... | |
| Feb 23, 2015 at 19:53 | comment | added | falstro | @Radu094 it must be more than the 15 NM though, the segment KOSAX-OLIVI is 27 miles, all in all (and it does appear to be BRNAV all the way from takeoff to OLIVI) it's about 43 NM | |
| Feb 23, 2015 at 19:38 | comment | added | falstro | @Radu094 yup, that's the answer. Did not know of the B-RNAV requirement. How to track 256° off the threshold to 6 DME is also a mystery, but I assume BRNAV again :p | |
| Feb 23, 2015 at 19:37 | answer | added | falstro | timeline score: 8 | |
| Feb 23, 2015 at 19:32 | comment | added | Radu094 | Ouch! I see MND now. Well, for that matter how can you fly to 6DME if you have no lateral guidance? Note that all IFR acft are required to have Basic-RNAV in EASA and DR segmments are allowed up to (i believe) 10 or 15 NM | |
| Feb 23, 2015 at 19:30 | comment | added | falstro | @Radu094 MND is a DME, no radials available. The text just says to track 333° to KOSAX. But I found the answer in the remarks section of the textual description. | |
| Feb 23, 2015 at 19:29 | comment | added | Radu094 | Can't tell from the chart but isn't KOSAX->OLIVI on R294 from MND? What is the text description saying on OLIVI 4W? | |
| Feb 23, 2015 at 19:27 | comment | added | falstro | @Simon lat/lon would require a GPS or INS or other RNAV equipment do determine accurately (and GPS has its own chart). Given that this is an instrument procedure, I would assume you'd have instrument support to fly it accurately. If you're saying dead-reckoning is the answer, then it's the first instrument procedure using dead-reckoning I've ever come across (not saying it's wrong, just that I didn't know it was acceptable) | |
| Feb 23, 2015 at 19:17 | history | edited | falstro | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 23, 2015 at 19:17 | comment | added | Simon | I just know I'm missing the point. What aircraft? What fit? I assume that the GPS/FMC don't understand waypoints? Please add a bit more detail because as the question stands, it seems like 6DME MND then 333 for a bit of dead reckoning. As far as determining the location of KOSAX, why is the lat long not enough? | |
| Feb 23, 2015 at 18:37 | history | edited | fooot | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 23, 2015 at 18:30 | history | asked | falstro | CC BY-SA 3.0 |